Now that it snowed they need to lock up Watt Canyon

[Whitefoot]

What's your youtube David an I will look it up.

[Odell]

"Doing what you want, to benefit yourself just because you can..."

I'll take the definition of unethical for $500 Alex.

[bobcat]

Oh Mah- you don't have a problem with Yakama tribe members running a business of selling elk meat? (jerky)

If I understand correctly, this is actually against tribal law, but apparently it's one of those laws that's not enforced.

[dvolmer]

Oh Mah- you don't have a problem with Yakama tribe members running a business of selling elk meat? (jerky)

If I understand correctly, this is actually against tribal law, but apparently it's one of those laws that's not enforced.

I don't think there are many tribal laws that are enforced.  They are taken as guidelines.  Its just about laughable if it wasn't so devastating.

[Oh Mah]

I agree that it happens  but how often and by how many is what matters.ALL NATIVES DO NOT DO THIS AND I DON'T SEE THAT SAID ENOUGH.Its like a biggie topic,lots of talk but never any proof.

IS EVERYONE SAYING THAT WE HAVE WINTER KILL PROBLEMS,HOOF ROT PROBLEMS,NOT ENOUGH RANGE PROBLEMS,POACHING PROBLEMS,OR IS IT ALL TRIBAL?

The stories i have been reading lately are of bulls with heads cut off and body left to rot.Now i make jerky with deer/elk and bear but i have never used the head for it.

[Oh Mah]

Oh Mah- you don't have a problem with Yakama tribe members running a business of selling elk meat? (jerky)

If I understand correctly, this is actually against tribal law, but apparently it's one of those laws that's not enforced.

It is not against the law for tribal to sell jewelry,salmon and eggs or jerky 

since i know its coming.
UNITED STATES VS WINANS,198 U.S.371,S.CT.662, 49 L.ED. 2ND 1089 (1905)

[jackelope]

I don't know,Maybe some are bashing on the wrong user group.The tribes do a lot for the game in WA.No matter what most people think.they have the right,they were given that right by people that are not even alive any more and those rights are not gonna go anywhere while we that are alive still live period.

THIS GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE POST THAT JACKELOPE PUT UP THIS MORNING.IT DOES NO ONE ANY GOOD.   

The user group is blatantly obvious. There's no confusion, mistakes, etc.

Are you saying that tribal hunters are poaching?Causing the decline in our herds?

Don't put words in my mouth. I'm not saying any of that and I'm not sure where you'd even come up with that idea. In regards to your comment "Maybe some are bashing on the wrong user group," it seems like you're maybe not sure who everyone is talking about in this thread, and that didn't make sense to me. Everyone knows who this thread and the elk slaughter up Joe Watt is referring to. Just because someone can do something, doesn't mean it's right, and also unfortunately doesn't mean they'll utilize the rights they have responsibly.

no offense but i know exactly what user group is being bashed on here.and you just confirmed where you stand on this issue.everybody always saying the same thing.

now i said it earlier in this thread,Lets see 10 photos of 10 different native owned rigs hauling elk out.from any 1 camera.with all the blame going around this should be easy. 

I'm not trying to hide any of it either. I have a huge dislike for the tribal members who abuse their rights. Guys who are killing dozens of elk per year to fund a jerky business for example. Hopefully you're not going to try and tell me that doesn't happen.
And for the record, I have a load of respect for the tribal members who do what they can within their rights and don't abuse those rights. Fill your freezers, feed your families, hunt for a funeral, whatever...but for those abusing your rights who have absolutely zero consideration for the herds and conservation on a long term basis, shame on you.

[jackelope]

I agree that it happens  but how often and by how many is what matters.ALL NATIVES DO NOT DO THIS AND I DON'T SEE THAT SAID ENOUGH.Its like a biggie topic,lots of talk but never any proof.

IS EVERYONE SAYING THAT WE HAVE WINTER KILL PROBLEMS,HOOF ROT PROBLEMS,NOT ENOUGH RANGE PROBLEMS,POACHING PROBLEMS,OR IS IT ALL TRIBAL?

The stories i have been reading lately are of bulls with heads cut off and body left to rot.Now i make jerky with deer/elk and bear but i have never used the head for it.

NOBODY IS SAYING ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE INSINUATING.
Literally nobody is saying "all natives" anything. There are poaching issues for sure. Winter kill, predators, hoof rot...probably our biggest problems, but the abuse of tribal rights is something that could be relatively easily remedied, yet nobody is willing to do anything to solve the problems. It's unfortunate.

 

[jackelope]

"Doing what you want, to benefit yourself just because you can..."

I'll take the definition of unethical for $500 Alex.

THIS!!!

[Oh Mah]

No i wont say selling jerky doesn't happen,That also is their right.They have been bartering with the non natives since non natives landed in America.

HOW DO YOU THINK THEY GOT THINGS OTHER THAN MEAT?

[Oh Mah]

Unethical would be not caring for your grandparents and fatherless families etc.People want to forget that tribal members don't take several deer and elk to their own homes for themselves they do hunt for the elders and such also.

As for selling the meat,So what they have always done it and always will.How many of you business owners on here hire tribal members anyway?

[MADMAX]

No i wont say selling jerky doesn't happen,That also is their right.They have been bartering with the non natives since non natives landed in America.

HOW DO YOU THINK THEY GOT THINGS OTHER THAN MEAT?

Casinos

[Oh Mah]

casinos  hate to break it to you but casinos were not around when these treaty rights were written up and agreed upon. 

[jackelope]

https://www.ynwildlife.org/tribalhunting.php

Introduction

The following guidelines are designed to help inform Yakama Tribal Members and the General Public on the Hunting Rights of Yakamas and to help alleviate any confusion about these rights. These only highlight some of the laws, and are not meant to replace the existing law and order codes regarding these activities that more fully define the tribal laws regarding hunting. These can be obtained by contacting the YN Wildlife Program.

Members of the Yakama Nation hunt throughout their ancestral lands in Washington State for the purpose of gathering meat for sustenance and ceremonial purposes. It is not the custom of tribal people to hunt or gather food for sport or leisure, but is instead a traditional and cultural activity that is needed to provide food for funerals, memorials, name givings, food feasts, and family dinners. On the reservation and ceded areas, these laws and rights override the jurisdiction of the Washington State Department of Fish & Wildlife.

[jackelope]

Unethical would be not caring for your grandparents and fatherless families etc.People want to forget that tribal members don't take several deer and elk to their own homes for themselves they do hunt for the elders and such also.

As for selling the meat,So what they have always done it and always will.How many of you business owners on here hire tribal members anyway?

https://secure.ynwildlife.org/pdf/wildlifecode2005.pdf

Page 12. Section A.