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The problem with of course being that white slave owners would routinely rape Indian slaves and then enslave their children. So if you are going to say someone has to be 100% Native American in order to get treaty rights that’s going to be difficult. I have first hand accounts of a Native American woman who was spit on and called half breed by her classmates and teachers while attending school in the 50s and 60s. She should not be considered Native American though cause a white man raped her mom? The tribes are autonomous nations and can decide, like most autonomous nations, who gets to become a member or citizen. As much as I don’t like Obama I don’t ever recall someone disparaging him because of his white ancestry yet people would disparage him because of his black skin color and ancestry. Not saying he isn’t half white just saying that to a lot of people that still means he is black.Quote from: dvolmer on December 03, 2019, 12:17:48 PMI was going to try and not say any more but I have a big mouth so here it goes.Yes Natives have treaty rights on hunting and fishing. Here's my problem, What is a native and what is not? We have to honor their rights and treaties but they get to determine who has these rights. Stay with me here. After a little research I found that to be a member of the Yakima tribe you have to be 25% native. Muckelshoot tribe is 10%. In the past, your % had to be higher. They get to make these rules and they are fluid in that they can change the percentage as they choose. So when a Muckelshoot with 10% native blood gets to hunt, what is the other 90% of him or her doing? Poaching???100% natives should be able to keep their treaty rights. Anything less is a wicked evil American like the rest of us! If this rule was followed the problem would be solved.Like Obama, supposed to be are first black president. Nonsense! He was half white! So I guess people in this country get to choose and pick what % nationality they get to be determining on what special interest or benefit it will get them. Hogwash! This is Racism at its finest. But we are called racist by talking about it and or challenging the validity of it all. Dvolmer well said. Platensko what?? White slave owners “routinely” raped Indian slaves? I don’t think white people even owned Native American slaves in a routine or large amount. Although there were slaves in many territories like Carolinas native slaves were illegal by the 1600s. Many tribes in southwestern America did “routinely”own black slaves though. Obama was half white but was only identified as a black man does that seem right? Tiger woods is more Asian than black but everyone ( not Tiger mostly media) identified him only as black man. I do think that’s a weird twist on racism. How about if we all start identifying as Americans and quit obsessing on skin color? Can’t do that certain groups get too many benefits obsessing on our skin color and differences be a lot better if we just focused on our similarities mostly that were all just Americans. Most of our ancestry is a little bit of everything.
I was going to try and not say any more but I have a big mouth so here it goes.Yes Natives have treaty rights on hunting and fishing. Here's my problem, What is a native and what is not? We have to honor their rights and treaties but they get to determine who has these rights. Stay with me here. After a little research I found that to be a member of the Yakima tribe you have to be 25% native. Muckelshoot tribe is 10%. In the past, your % had to be higher. They get to make these rules and they are fluid in that they can change the percentage as they choose. So when a Muckelshoot with 10% native blood gets to hunt, what is the other 90% of him or her doing? Poaching???100% natives should be able to keep their treaty rights. Anything less is a wicked evil American like the rest of us! If this rule was followed the problem would be solved.Like Obama, supposed to be are first black president. Nonsense! He was half white! So I guess people in this country get to choose and pick what % nationality they get to be determining on what special interest or benefit it will get them. Hogwash! This is Racism at its finest. But we are called racist by talking about it and or challenging the validity of it all.
Are we gonna start talking about corner crossing now?ABOUT TO GO FULL CIRCLE ON ALL THE WOES OF LIVING IN WA. STATE. This checker board state gives it to every user group.
Quote from: Oh Mah on December 03, 2019, 08:09:12 PMAre we gonna start talking about corner crossing now?ABOUT TO GO FULL CIRCLE ON ALL THE WOES OF LIVING IN WA. STATE. This checker board state gives it to every user group.Well oh mah lets see a map of some unclaimed land in Washington.Just cause it's owned by the state,blm,national forest,ect doesn't make it unclaimed,back in the early days I'm sure it was but not now.
Quote from: meatwhack on December 03, 2019, 04:42:26 PMThe “In Common With” language is what I believe could be argued.In common with when? lol.You keep intentionally missing the entire argument.You say in common with i say when.when the treaty was agreed upon they were in common with.anyone find those fishing and hunting regs from 1855 yet?To point out another fact.the time from then to now has changed for the tribes in a very negative way as far as hunting goes,they have lost a lot of rights and opportunity.
The “In Common With” language is what I believe could be argued.
