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Re: Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?
« Reply #75 on: December 18, 2019, 06:39:57 AM »
I've heard this many times from the anti-gun left. "You don't need a military-style weapon to defend your home." Really? Who made you the boss of me and my rights? So, whether it's you or Bob F., you don't get to tell me what's right or what's overkill for my own defense decisions.

You want to talk about the anti-gun left? Guys like the one in the video are part of the problem. He has all these gun owners thinking they should be doing over analysis of some suburban stalking terrorist group when this is the real problem:

https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Ban_on_Assault_Weapons_Initiative_(2020)

I'm sick of this mall ninja tactical training crap. The bogeyman is not in your backyard.

The bogeyman is indeed real and he writes bills.

I'm relieved to find out you're not in favor of gun control. But you're still slinging insults at other gun owners (mall ninja, boogeyman, etc.) because their ideas don't align with yours. Your problem is you don't know at where or what you should lash out so you lash out in every direction. Figure out who's like-minded and who is not and stick to lashing out at who is not. I doubt you'll take the advise but sometimes miracles happen.
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Re: Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?
« Reply #76 on: December 18, 2019, 07:58:19 AM »
Funny.. You were the one talking about taking the "SAW" and going out to see who was banging around in the back yard. I'd just call the police..  :chuckle:

Was sarcasm.

As for training.. Lack thereof is irresponsible and will get you killed. People with real life experiences realize the fundamentals that you call "ninja tactical training" are what keep you alive. Without the fundamentals your pistol and light are worthless.

I don't need a commando school to learn how to operate a pistol and light. 

The guy is running a commando school and advocating rifle training for home defense when AR-15s could be illegal in Oregon within a year. Total lack of awareness as to who the threat is.

We don't need any more tacti-dudes making youtube videos about the Miami shooting or advanced tactics when dealing with suburban terrorist squads.

But nevermind let's return to training for million to 1 scenarios when it is 1:1 that libs want to ban AR-15s in Washington and Oregon. The country has a real problem with identifying enemies within.

Why would you be against anyone preparing for the worst case scenario?  Especially when it comes to a life or death situation.

What is the negative impact to being prepared, or overly prepared?



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Re: Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?
« Reply #77 on: December 18, 2019, 09:14:13 AM »
You guys are killing me.

The best defense is a good offense.

The end.

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Re: Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?
« Reply #78 on: December 18, 2019, 09:20:42 AM »
Tell that to the unmarked UPS driver that delivered a package in his shady white van the other day. :chuckle:





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Re: Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?
« Reply #79 on: December 18, 2019, 09:34:44 AM »
That's why they wear brown pants. :)

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Re: Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?
« Reply #80 on: December 18, 2019, 09:36:24 AM »
That's why they wear brown pants. :)
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Re: Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?
« Reply #81 on: December 18, 2019, 09:41:35 AM »
That's why they wear brown pants. :)

 :chuckle:




Thats the dumb thing this year.   UPS hired a whole bunch of plain cloths guys.    This not so professional looking ethnic fellow pulls up to my house in a plain old beat up white van........  Imagine his surprise when the welcoming committee greeted him

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Re: Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?
« Reply #82 on: December 18, 2019, 10:24:58 AM »
Lol. We use UPS now exclusively. You're lucky you got your package at all.
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Re: Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?
« Reply #83 on: December 19, 2019, 12:52:05 PM »
I'm relieved to find out you're not in favor of gun control. But you're still slinging insults at other gun owners (mall ninja, boogeyman, etc.) because their ideas don't align with yours. Your problem is you don't know at where or what you should lash out so you lash out in every direction. Figure out who's like-minded and who is not and stick to lashing out at who is not. I doubt you'll take the advise but sometimes miracles happen.

That's one way of looking at it.

Or another way is that I'm better in touch with reality and actual threats to our lifestyle than the 10 thousand mall ninja experts on youtube arguing about which hollow bullets to use on suburban terrorists. These people serve as a distraction to real threats and I'll criticize them all I want.

Mr Commando there will probably have to switch his class to "shotgun tactics" if Oregon libs get their way next year. They are pushing for a flat out ban.

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Re: Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?
« Reply #84 on: December 19, 2019, 07:09:24 PM »
I'm relieved to find out you're not in favor of gun control. But you're still slinging insults at other gun owners (mall ninja, boogeyman, etc.) because their ideas don't align with yours. Your problem is you don't know at where or what you should lash out so you lash out in every direction. Figure out who's like-minded and who is not and stick to lashing out at who is not. I doubt you'll take the advise but sometimes miracles happen.

That's one way of looking at it.

Or another way is that I'm better in touch with reality and actual threats to our lifestyle than the 10 thousand mall ninja experts on youtube arguing about which hollow bullets to use on suburban terrorists. These people serve as a distraction to real threats and I'll criticize them all I want.

Mr Commando there will probably have to switch his class to "shotgun tactics" if Oregon libs get their way next year. They are pushing for a flat out ban.

Troll?
If I need a permit and education to buy a firearm than women should need a permit and education  before getting an abortion.

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Re: Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?
« Reply #85 on: December 19, 2019, 11:18:40 PM »
That's why they wear brown pants. :)

 :chuckle:




Thats the dumb thing this year.   UPS hired a whole bunch of plain cloths guys.    This not so professional looking ethnic fellow pulls up to my house in a plain old beat up white van........  Imagine his surprise when the welcoming committee greeted him
I got some guy driving up in an old lifted beat up Tacoma in plain clothes. I wasn’t expecting a present from him when he unrolled the window. Don’t remember if it was amazon or what.


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Re: Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?
« Reply #86 on: December 20, 2019, 06:47:18 AM »
I'm relieved to find out you're not in favor of gun control. But you're still slinging insults at other gun owners (mall ninja, boogeyman, etc.) because their ideas don't align with yours. Your problem is you don't know at where or what you should lash out so you lash out in every direction. Figure out who's like-minded and who is not and stick to lashing out at who is not. I doubt you'll take the advise but sometimes miracles happen.

That's one way of looking at it.

Or another way is that I'm better in touch with reality and actual threats to our lifestyle than the 10 thousand mall ninja experts on youtube arguing about which hollow bullets to use on suburban terrorists. These people serve as a distraction to real threats and I'll criticize them all I want.

Mr Commando there will probably have to switch his class to "shotgun tactics" if Oregon libs get their way next year. They are pushing for a flat out ban.

Troll?

Not sure he's a troll - possibly. But he certainly is striking out in every direction. I support 2A. I don't support your version of 2A. I should be the one writing the rules for 2A, etc. He just sounds confused to me.  :dunno:
"Restricting the rights of law-abiding citizens based on the actions of criminals and madmen will have no positive effect on the future acts of criminals and madmen. It will only serve to reduce individual rights and the very security of our republic." - Pianoman https://linktr.ee/johnlwallace

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Re: Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?
« Reply #87 on: December 20, 2019, 06:58:37 AM »
I haven't watched the video.  If we are talking long guns for self defense, it is hard to argue a shotgun with buckshot.

That's my armchair QB response.

Might want to watch the video :tup:

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Re: Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?
« Reply #88 on: December 20, 2019, 10:25:53 AM »
I haven't watched the video.  If we are talking long guns for self defense, it is hard to argue a shotgun with buckshot.

That's my armchair QB response.

Might want to watch the video :tup:

Always helps!  :chuckle:
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Re: Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?
« Reply #89 on: December 20, 2019, 10:37:17 AM »
I'm relieved to find out you're not in favor of gun control. But you're still slinging insults at other gun owners (mall ninja, boogeyman, etc.) because their ideas don't align with yours. Your problem is you don't know at where or what you should lash out so you lash out in every direction. Figure out who's like-minded and who is not and stick to lashing out at who is not. I doubt you'll take the advise but sometimes miracles happen.

That's one way of looking at it.

Or another way is that I'm better in touch with reality and actual threats to our lifestyle than the 10 thousand mall ninja experts on youtube arguing about which hollow bullets to use on suburban terrorists. These people serve as a distraction to real threats and I'll criticize them all I want.

Mr Commando there will probably have to switch his class to "shotgun tactics" if Oregon libs get their way next year. They are pushing for a flat out ban.

Troll?

Not sure he's a troll - possibly. But he certainly is striking out in every direction. I support 2A. I don't support your version of 2A. I should be the one writing the rules for 2A, etc. He just sounds confused to me.  :dunno:

Young and inexperienced possibly? I for one realize a lot of those "YouTube internet commandos" are current/former military/police with good information. Living it is far different than thinking you know. Time on earth teaches you that.
If I need a permit and education to buy a firearm than women should need a permit and education  before getting an abortion.

Voting for Democrats is prima facie evidence you are a skirt wearing, low T, beta male. Do better.

 


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