Who Needs A Rifle For Self Defense?

[Cougartail]

The guy watches too much tv.

Home invasions in Washington and Oregon are extremely rare. A criminal staying around for a gun fight is even less likely.

Handgun with a light is all you need.

lol.. After your first gun fight get back to me on what you need.. if you still can.

I'll always take my AR with a 30 rounder over a pistol if I can. Real life experience teaches you this.

Where you do plan on getting into this gunfight? Eastern Wa? Most Wa homicides are in King/Pierce.

Criminals aren't looking to get into a gunfight over your HDTV.

Oh dear something went bump in my shed in Benton county, hang on lemme get my SAW

I never planned on getting in a gun fight with anyone. When 4 drug dealing gang bangers tried to kill me because I evicted their buddy from a rental and told him he owes me money for damages caused by a grow operation I got an education on realities of gun fights.

You have no idea what "Methed out" criminals will do. The 96 year old great grandma who got a hammer to the head in Yakima found out what a home burglar will do along with 2 others.

You need to get a reality check and go see Clint Smith. It's always amazing how after the fact you get such clarity of realities.

[huntnphool]

The guy watches too much tv.

Home invasions in Washington and Oregon are extremely rare. A criminal staying around for a gun fight is even less likely.

Handgun with a light is all you need.

lol.. After your first gun fight get back to me on what you need.. if you still can.

I'll always take my AR with a 30 rounder over a pistol if I can. Real life experience teaches you this.

Where you do plan on getting into this gunfight? Eastern Wa? Most Wa homicides are in King/Pierce.

Criminals aren't looking to get into a gunfight over your HDTV.

Oh dear something went bump in my shed in Benton county, hang on lemme get my SAW

Did you remember to grab your spare mag when you jumped out of bed and grabbed your handgun? Likely not. Even if the criminals all have only 7- 13 rounds each, you're outgunned. An AR solves these issues.

 Only until Governor Jay gets his mag legislation passed.

[konradcountry]

I never planned on getting in a gun fight with anyone. When 4 drug dealing gang bangers tried to kill me because I evicted their buddy from a rental and told him he owes me money for damages caused by a grow operation I got an education on realities of gun fights.

You have no idea what "Methed out" criminals will do. The 96 year old great grandma who got a hammer to the head in Yakima found out what a home burglar will do along with 2 others.

You need to get a reality check and go see Clint Smith. It's always amazing how after the fact you get such clarity of realities.

I have been attacked by a violent criminal in public but that doesn't mean I am going to ignore the extreme improbability of getting into a gunfight with random people in my home to where the advantage of a rifle is needed.

Clint Smith in that video references the Hollywood and Miami shootouts. Those were police interactions with dangerous convicts. I'm not a police officer looking for dangerous convicts.

Maybe I should start my own training course on how to take down German terrorists that are armed with P90s at office Christmas parties.

Most "gun crime" occurs in about a dozen cities managed exclusively by Democrats. If someone actually randomly breaks into my home I will keep a drink in my left hand if it suits me. I'm not going to live in fear of random "gun crime" which is really just media hype and the inability of Democrats to manage their own areas.

[pianoman9701]

The naivete is strong in this one. I truly hope you don't become a victim of it. I know I won't become a victim of my preparedness. 

[syoungs]

https://www.610kona.com/two-injured-in-richland-shooting-early-monday-morning/

https://keprtv.com/news/local/watch-new-footage-released-from-pasco-gun-fight

less then 1 minute of google shows these 3 links. 2 in Benton county, 1 across the river in franklin county.

Not home invasions.

Still gunfights that happened in Benton county.
"Where you do plan on getting into this gunfight? Eastern Wa? Most Wa homicides are in King/Pierce.

Criminals aren't looking to get into a gunfight over your HDTV.

Oh dear something went bump in my shed in Benton county, hang on lemme get my SAW"

If these types of acts are happening anywhere relevant to where I live, I am not going to consider limiting myself to a far less superior choice of weaponry.

[konradcountry]

The naivete is strong in this one. I truly hope you don't become a victim of it. I know I won't become a victim of my preparedness.

The naivete is strong in this one.

I'm going to wear kevlar to my office party. I know I won't be a victim of a terrorist attack.

Guess I am just more prepared than you.

[konradcountry]

If these types of acts are happening anywhere relevant to where I live, I am not going to consider limiting myself to a far less superior choice of weaponry.

I asked where in Eastern Wa this gunfight would occur.

Yakima county is not the norm and most of their "gun crimes" involve Hispanic gangs.

And referencing a police shootout and a domestic dispute in Yakima doesn't change the extreme unlikelihood of this random suburban break-in shootout anywhere in Washington.

This is no different than refusing to fly because you remember a plane crash from two years ago. It's not a rational concern.

A handgun is all you need. But I'm very pro-2A so if you want to sleep in body armor and answer the door with an AK then go ahead.

[KFhunter]

The amount of preparedness is a personal choice of convenience vs inconvenience, risk vs reward. 

So there's no real arguing about this, its just an opinion, none are right or wrong. 

[syoungs]

If these types of acts are happening anywhere relevant to where I live, I am not going to consider limiting myself to a far less superior choice of weaponry.

I asked where in Eastern Wa this gunfight would occur.

Yakima county is not the norm and most of their "gun crimes" involve Hispanic gangs.

And referencing a police shootout and a domestic dispute in Yakima doesn't change the extreme unlikelihood of this random suburban break-in shootout anywhere in Washington.

This is no different than refusing to fly because you remember a plane crash from two years ago. It's not a rational concern.

A handgun is all you need. But I'm very pro-2A so if you want to sleep in body armor and answer the door with an AK then go ahead.

Yakima is rough, but we have the same people moving up and down the valley. I'm not sure why Yakima was even brought up.

about 9 blocks from my house in richland.
https://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local/crime/article237897144.html

yeah its not a home invasion. but this proves these career criminals are out and about in eastern Washington.
Once again, I will not limit my choices in defensive weapons by choice, especially when people like this are around.

[pianoman9701]

Anyone who thinks they know what's best in home and personal defense for everyone has an attitude very similar to that of our state AG. "Only we know what's best for you!"

[konradcountry]

Anyone who thinks they know what's best in home and personal defense for everyone has an attitude very similar to that of our state AG. "Only we know what's best for you!"

So who you comparing to that slimeball AG?

The questioned was asked if a rifle is needed for home defense.

I said not in most cases and explained why.

The person in the video that sells a defense course seems to think he knows best and made fascinating arguments like: Remember that cop shooting that had nothing to do with home invasions?

He should stay off planes if he is that worried.

[boneaddict]

Anyone who thinks they know what's best in home and personal defense for everyone has an attitude very similar to that of our state AG. "Only we know what's best for you!"

I dont even know whats best for me, that's why I have a crap ton of options and since I can see 400-600 yards from my house, I have some long range options in the unlikely event I miss up close.

[Platensek-po]

Not really trying to thread jack but I have a question for those of you with multiple guns around the house. Do you have kids? How do you balance accessibility to your firearms and keeping them safe from munchkins?? I spend a lot of time talking to my kids about firearm safety and what to do if they find one but I have a hard time balancing keeping loaded weapons in my house and having them accessible while also keeping them safe from my kids. Right now my pistol is mostly to buy time until I get to my long guns. Just curious how others deal with that.

[pianoman9701]

Anyone who thinks they know what's best in home and personal defense for everyone has an attitude very similar to that of our state AG. "Only we know what's best for you!"

So who you comparing to that slimeball AG?

The questioned was asked if a rifle is needed for home defense.

I said not in most cases and explained why.

The person in the video that sells a defense course seems to think he knows best and made fascinating arguments like: Remember that cop shooting that had nothing to do with home invasions?

He should stay off planes if he is that worried.

No, I wasn't comparing you to Ferguson. But I was comparing the type of attitude that you know better than anyone else what we ll need for defense. That's ridiculous. I don't care how you choose to defend your home or even whether you feel the need to. But instead of acknowledging that different people have different ideas about what's necessary, you mocked and characterized several of us as going to bed with kevlar on and answering the door with an AK47, all because we have different views of how to effectively defend ourselves and our homes. I've heard this many times from the anti-gun left. "You don't need a military-style weapon to defend your home." Really? Who made you the boss of me and my rights? So, whether it's you or Bob F., you don't get to tell me what's right or what's overkill for my own defense decisions.

[boneaddict]

Not really trying to thread jack but I have a question for those of you with multiple guns around the house. Do you have kids? How do you balance accessibility to your firearms and keeping them safe from munchkins?? I spend a lot of time talking to my kids about firearm safety and what to do if they find one but I have a hard time balancing keeping loaded weapons in my house and having them accessible while also keeping them safe from my kids. Right now my pistol is mostly to buy time until I get to my long guns. Just curious how others deal with that.

I'll refer you to the thread about 1639