Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?

[konradcountry]

It's pretty astonishing, 8 pages and 150+ 'votes' and all these people with all this on the ground observation/experience and not one of them can provide any evidence of this secret conspiracy of wolf transport-release into WA. 

Leaves us with 2 choices:

1. WDFW and other federal agencies are masterful wizards smarter than all of their detractors and capable of pulling off a highly successful and elaborate scheme involving many people without leaving behind a trace of evidence

2. Wolves weren't transplanted by WDFW.

I can think of other scenarios.

3. A certain pro-wolf organization that breeds them releases two breeding pairs into the wild to promote conservation

4. Wolf-dog breeders abandon their stock

Of course there isn't going to be hard evidence in either scenario. But the lack of evidence doesn't lead to a conclusion either.

[KFhunter]

I do know of one wolf WDFW has released.


It was a Ruby creek wolf near Ione WA.  Two females got used to people and other dogs, got to hanging around town.   

WDFW captured one of the females in a trap and brought her to the wolf sanctuary in W/WA    wolf haven?   

the other female wolf got knocked up by a sheep dog, they caught her,  got her spayed, then turned loose again,  but then was later run over by a vehicle. 


Soe one went to a sanctuary, the other WDFW turned loose


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[idahohuntr]

It's pretty astonishing, 8 pages and 150+ 'votes' and all these people with all this on the ground observation/experience and not one of them can provide any evidence of this secret conspiracy of wolf transport-release into WA. 

Leaves us with 2 choices:

1. WDFW and other federal agencies are masterful wizards smarter than all of their detractors and capable of pulling off a highly successful and elaborate scheme involving many people without leaving behind a trace of evidence

2. Wolves weren't transplanted by WDFW.

I can think of other scenarios.

3. A certain pro-wolf organization that breeds them releases two breeding pairs into the wild to promote conservation

4. Wolf-dog breeders abandon their stock

Of course there isn't going to be hard evidence in either scenario. But the lack of evidence doesn't lead to a conclusion either.

If we are including individual private citizens releasing domesticated dogs with wolf like characteristics...I have no doubt some stray dogs have been turned loose by any number of WA's millions of residents.   

My contention, for which none of these hunt-wa geniuses has been able to provide any credible evidence to the contrary, is that wdfw or other government agencies have not been involved in the transplant of wild wolves into WA.

We get a lot of innuendo and some very cowardly people who admit to being coerced into keeping there mouths shut by government bureaucrats, but no credible evidence.   

 

[KFhunter]

curious where this was, it mowed down with a scent rock placed.  Conservation northwest sure knew where the very first wolves showed up, and got a camera on it, and mowed an area so they could get really nice pictures of the new pups.

2008

[KFhunter]

Or maybe they just happened to catch the very first wolf to naturally disperse in WA, and stick a collar on it, and prep a nice denning area? 


I wonder what real wild wolves would think of a lawnmower next to their den?

[KFhunter]

[Gobble Doc]

Or maybe they just happened to catch the very first wolf to naturally disperse in WA, and stick a collar on it, and prep a nice denning area? 


I wonder what real wild wolves would think of a lawnmower next to their den?

Was that a 2008 video?


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[KFhunter]

Ya, supposedly showing the very first pack of wolves in Washington.

video dated 7/17/2008   

[Gobble Doc]

Ya, supposedly showing the very first pack of wolves in Washington.

video dated 7/17/2008   

Yea, I completely agree. Them somehow being the first to find with their hidden cameras...  I smell a rat.


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[Sitka_Blacktail]

I do know of one wolf WDFW has released.


It was a Ruby creek wolf near Ione WA.  Two females got used to people and other dogs, got to hanging around town.   

WDFW captured one of the females in a trap and brought her to the wolf sanctuary in W/WA    wolf haven?   

the other female wolf got knocked up by a sheep dog, they caught her,  got her spayed, then turned loose again,  but then was later run over by a vehicle. 


Soe one went to a sanctuary, the other WDFW turned loose


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But, turning that one loose is not the same as importing them.

[huntnphool]

It's pretty astonishing, 8 pages and 150+ 'votes' and all these people with all this on the ground observation/experience and not one of them can provide any evidence of this secret conspiracy of wolf transport-release into WA. 

Leaves us with 2 choices:

1. WDFW and other federal agencies are masterful wizards smarter than all of their detractors and capable of pulling off a highly successful and elaborate scheme involving many people without leaving behind a trace of evidence

2. Wolves weren't transplanted by WDFW.

I can think of other scenarios.

3. A certain pro-wolf organization that breeds them releases two breeding pairs into the wild to promote conservation

4. Wolf-dog breeders abandon their stock

Of course there isn't going to be hard evidence in either scenario. But the lack of evidence doesn't lead to a conclusion either.

We get a lot of innuendo and some very cowardly people who admit to being coerced into keeping there mouths shut by government bureaucrats, but no credible evidence.

 Walks in...then heads to the microwave to make popcorn...

[fishngamereaper]

It's pretty astonishing, 8 pages and 150+ 'votes' and all these people with all this on the ground observation/experience and not one of them can provide any evidence of this secret conspiracy of wolf transport-release into WA. 

Leaves us with 2 choices:

1. WDFW and other federal agencies are masterful wizards smarter than all of their detractors and capable of pulling off a highly successful and elaborate scheme involving many people without leaving behind a trace of evidence

2. Wolves weren't transplanted by WDFW.

I can think of other scenarios.

3. A certain pro-wolf organization that breeds them releases two breeding pairs into the wild to promote conservation

4. Wolf-dog breeders abandon their stock

Of course there isn't going to be hard evidence in either scenario. But the lack of evidence doesn't lead to a conclusion either.

If we are including individual private citizens releasing domesticated dogs with wolf like characteristics...I have no doubt some stray dogs have been turned loose by any number of WA's millions of residents.   

My contention, for which none of these hunt-wa geniuses has been able to provide any credible evidence to the contrary, is that wdfw or other government agencies have not been involved in the transplant of wild wolves into WA.

We get a lot of innuendo and some very cowardly people who admit to being coerced into keeping there mouths shut by government bureaucrats, but no credible evidence.

Man you come across as an arrogant human being. Your labeling alot of people you don't even know..and your attitude is the exact reason I don't share more details. Just because people think they have the right to know things doesn't mean they get to. There are alot of things I know that you and others don't know. If I don't care to share on this forum does that make my knowledge less credible. I guess for some of you it does. 

So I guess you just continue to sit back and judge others, create labels that make you feel good. I'll continue on with my knowledge and use it when and where I see fit...

[pianoman9701]

It's pretty astonishing, 8 pages and 150+ 'votes' and all these people with all this on the ground observation/experience and not one of them can provide any evidence of this secret conspiracy of wolf transport-release into WA. 

Leaves us with 2 choices:

1. WDFW and other federal agencies are masterful wizards smarter than all of their detractors and capable of pulling off a highly successful and elaborate scheme involving many people without leaving behind a trace of evidence

2. Wolves weren't transplanted by WDFW.

I can think of other scenarios.

3. A certain pro-wolf organization that breeds them releases two breeding pairs into the wild to promote conservation

4. Wolf-dog breeders abandon their stock

Of course there isn't going to be hard evidence in either scenario. But the lack of evidence doesn't lead to a conclusion either.

If we are including individual private citizens releasing domesticated dogs with wolf like characteristics...I have no doubt some stray dogs have been turned loose by any number of WA's millions of residents.   

My contention, for which none of these hunt-wa geniuses has been able to provide any credible evidence to the contrary, is that wdfw or other government agencies have not been involved in the transplant of wild wolves into WA.

We get a lot of innuendo and some very cowardly people who admit to being coerced into keeping there their mouths shut by government bureaucrats, but no credible evidence.

This and other discussions are possible without personal attacks on our fellow forum members. And when sarcastically referring to fellow members as geniuses, try to remember to spell correctly so as not to look like a "HuntWA genius" yourself. No problem. I fixed it for you. How about we keep this discussion civil, eh?

[zwickeyman]

"Ya, supposedly showing the very first pack of wolves in Washington.

video dated 7/17/2008  "

They just mis labeled the video is all KFHUNTER

They meant to say " first pack started by them in WA"

[zwickeyman]

Honestly

All you guys that dont believe Wolves had some kind of help. Open your minds and watch the video again and again and try and figure out how it was possible for that video to even happen