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Were wolves imported to Washington in secret?  

Yes  - I think wolves were dumped in WA
160 (68.7%)
No   - They arrived here naturally
73 (31.3%)

Total Members Voted: 233

Voting closed: January 23, 2020, 01:12:43 PM

Author Topic: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?  (Read 41729 times)

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Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« on: December 24, 2019, 01:11:05 PM »
as the poll say's,  do you think wolves were brought in and dumped in WA in secret? 

clarification:

Any government agency that either did it directly -or- knew about it yet allowed it to happen





« Last Edit: December 24, 2019, 01:53:03 PM by KFhunter »

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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2019, 01:27:10 PM »
I was going to lock this so people could only vote and not comment, but not sure that would work so its open


comment if you like, or don't.  I'm only interested in poll #'s

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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2019, 01:30:38 PM »
What does down low mean? The WDFW or USFS did it on the sly with no paperwork? OR did some kind of ORG like Wolf Hollow or some other similar group do it? OR all/any of the above?
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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2019, 01:32:22 PM »
Thanks.

It will be an interesting poll.
I'm also interested in what people think.

(and you'll need some responses to keep it from slipping into oblivion)

MY OPINION:   Wolves were not transplanted here......  because I simply don't think the gov't is smart enough to do it secretly. 
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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2019, 01:36:30 PM »
What does down low mean? The WDFW or USFS did it on the sly with no paperwork? OR did some kind of ORG like Wolf Hollow or some other similar group do it? OR all/any of the above?

Thanks for prompting me to clarify.

Any government agency that either did it directly -or- knew about it yet allowed it to happen and did not prosecute "some kind of ORG like Wolf Hollow or other similar group"

I already know individuals raised wolf dogs and turned them loose, but without government knowledge or complicity, I'm not interested in that. 


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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2019, 01:45:36 PM »
Thanks.

It will be an interesting poll.
I'm also interested in what people think.

(and you'll need some responses to keep it from slipping into oblivion)

MY OPINION:   Wolves were not transplanted here......  because I simply don't think the gov't is smart enough to do it secretly.

Thanks, I'm just looking for a snapshot of opinions as it sits right now.  Not looking for a compelling debate that might change votes one way or the other,  so I didn't make the poll visible either just in case someone might have a tendency to follow the popular opinion. 





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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2019, 01:47:28 PM »
I totally believe arrangements were made and backs were turned.......political IOU's bandied about in many directions.

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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2019, 01:50:00 PM »
 :yeah:
I voted yes because I believe there are a few WDFW employees that are extremely cozy with some Anti Hunting groups.
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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2019, 01:54:03 PM »
I don't believe any government agency was involved in bringing in wolves. No way could they keep it a secret. :twocents:
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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2019, 01:57:32 PM »
So the same people who can’t hide the fact they are getting lap dances at private meetings arranged to capture, transport and release an animal on the ESA list without anyone knowing or having a single whistle blower?? The president can’t even make a phone call without it going public yet the incompetent WDFW can cover up releasing wolves onto the landscape?? All to spite hunters??? Just curious if someone has anything even bordering on factual information that WDFW transported and released wolves or was aware of it happening.
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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2019, 02:01:09 PM »
Idaho, Montana and Wyoming all have wolf issues. But Colorado hasn't had but one wolf sighting in The Last 5 Years even though they have the largest number of elk and some of the most mule deer in the country. Why would the wolves go to Washington and stay and populate and not to Colorado?

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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2019, 02:06:25 PM »
Minnesota and Montana have resident wolves but North Dakota does not. Does that mean wolves were planted in 2 states but not the other?? Any wolf biologists on here want to weigh in?
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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2019, 02:21:18 PM »
So the same people who can’t hide the fact they are getting lap dances at private meetings arranged to capture, transport and release an animal on the ESA list without anyone knowing or having a single whistle blower?? The president can’t even make a phone call without it going public yet the incompetent WDFW can cover up releasing wolves onto the landscape?? All to spite hunters??? Just curious if someone has anything even bordering on factual information that WDFW transported and released wolves or was aware of it happening.
:chuckle: You've pretty much nailed it - and no, not one piece of credible evidence has ever surfaced.  Not one! 

As I've stated previously, hunters should reject these conspiracy theories (gov agencies secretly planting wolves in WA) because it makes us collectively look stupid and absurd.
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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2019, 02:27:09 PM »
Wolves were populating Washington by way of Canada prior to the Yellowstone release.
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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2019, 02:41:52 PM »
So the argument is, if wolves naturally dispersed to washington, then why didnt they disperse to colorado?

Flip side of the coin:  if greenie whackos or government spooks were releasing them here years ago, why havent they released them in colorado?

 


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