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Were wolves imported to Washington in secret?  

Yes  - I think wolves were dumped in WA
160 (68.7%)
No   - They arrived here naturally
73 (31.3%)

Total Members Voted: 233

Voting closed: January 23, 2020, 01:12:43 PM

Author Topic: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?  (Read 44153 times)

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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #60 on: December 25, 2019, 09:44:44 AM »
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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #61 on: December 25, 2019, 09:45:46 AM »
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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #62 on: December 25, 2019, 10:02:44 AM »
I remember a lot of speculation on what was being transported in beartraps thru Loomis in dark of night, 30 years ago or so.   :dunno:
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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #63 on: December 25, 2019, 10:08:23 AM »
When you read articles like this, it makes you wonder how anyone can legally be prosecuted for harvesting wolves that aren’t even native to this region.

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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #64 on: December 25, 2019, 10:25:37 AM »
When you read articles like this, it makes you wonder how anyone can legally be prosecuted for harvesting wolves that aren’t even native to this region.
Who wants to be the test case? I think the closest case was the guy that whacked one in Whitman county and got a slap on the wrist.

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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #65 on: December 25, 2019, 10:39:32 AM »
When you read articles like this, it makes you wonder how anyone can legally be prosecuted for harvesting wolves that aren’t even native to this region.
Who wants to be the test case? I think the closest case was the guy that whacked one in Whitman county and got a slap on the wrist.

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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #66 on: December 25, 2019, 10:46:08 AM »
Then these wolves where hard released in Idaho.I'm sure they where released on several reservations through  the idaho state .Which I'm sure help with idaho explosions and ours.But the kicker is there not gonna say where they where released,very easy to release next to the idaho border and have them here ten years later.This was all in early 90s .

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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #67 on: December 25, 2019, 11:32:39 AM »
I dont think your poll covers it all. It should not be one or the other it should also have both of the above.
In the eighty's I would watch them play in Medicine Valley. Some on here will know where that is. In the nineties I hunted quite a bit in B.C.. On the North side of this man made line we could shoot them with the proper tags. On the South side of this man made line if you shot one it was a Federal Offense. They the wolves did not know that line existed.
So yes they were here. However, when they started to appear with necklaces on them they had to of had some help fastening the clasps.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #68 on: December 25, 2019, 12:08:49 PM »
The wolves only had to walk across the Canadian border. No reason to think they needed any help to get into Washington.
So here is the rub. If they were so inclined to come from just across the border, why did the migrate from the Eastern border in a westerly fashion? Especially since they could have done so down the cascades so easily?

The whole thing stinks which is why I'll bet there are a lot of people who belive the department or feds had a hand in it.

They did come down southerly via the cascades.
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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #69 on: December 25, 2019, 04:43:47 PM »
I was told 10 years ago that there was wolves on St Helens. Then had a friend who was a tree faller for Weyerhauser twice watch wolves feed on elk carcasses above timberline on the northwest side. A neighbor, that happens to be a state patrolman reported seeing one on KM Mountain.That is halfway to the beach from Longview. The warden mentioned that is something we don't talk about. This was also several years ago. Now there is talk of introducing wolves to the Mudflow and the Olympic Peninsula. There is zero credibility left with our game department. Our military operates all over the world without the official US endorsement. I believe our game dept. is capable of that also. No proof, just my opinion!



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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #70 on: December 25, 2019, 05:28:37 PM »
The wolves only had to walk across the Canadian border. No reason to think they needed any help to get into Washington.

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Same could be said for the grizzly bear, right? But we aren’t seeing grizzly bears showing up in places they haven’t been seen in decades.

I wouldn’t doubt that some organization is helping them repopulate areas.

Why is there poor calf recruitment in the Yakima elk herd? Something causing them more stress? Like a new apex predator?

There are hundreds of trail cams watching Yakima elk.... but no wolf pics coming out of there...?

I’ve been running cameras in the Yakima area for over a decade and I rarely get bears on camera and have never had a cougar. But I know they are there, people have seen them or I’ve seen tracks.

I’ve talked to plenty of people that have seen them or heard them and I’ve personally seen some big canine tracks.

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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #71 on: December 25, 2019, 05:33:35 PM »
Interesting.   

Every single year that I've hung cameras, I have gotten bear and cougar.   Coyotes, raccoon, turkeys, etc.   

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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #72 on: December 25, 2019, 05:37:39 PM »
I was told 10 years ago that there was wolves on St Helens. Then had a friend who was a tree faller for Weyerhauser twice watch wolves feed on elk carcasses above timberline on the northwest side. A neighbor, that happens to be a state patrolman reported seeing one on KM Mountain.That is halfway to the beach from Longview. The warden mentioned that is something we don't talk about. This was also several years ago. Now there is talk of introducing wolves to the Mudflow and the Olympic Peninsula. There is zero credibility left with our game department. Our military operates all over the world without the official US endorsement. I believe our game dept. is capable of that also. No proof, just my opinion!

St Helns has lots of roads, Tons of hikers and loads of trail cams.   I just dont knkw how the wolves avoid detection.      :dunno:

Where are you hearing this talk of introducing wolves into the Methiw and Peninsula???
I'd like to know so I can show up and voice my opposition.
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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #73 on: December 25, 2019, 05:52:04 PM »
It’s not hard for wolves to avoid detection. I’ve been getting them on cam
In the teanaway the last 5/6 years and had never seen one. This year while deer hunting, same area my cams are in, was the first time I’d ever heard them howl. They were in the back of the drainage I was hunting.

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Re: Were wolves imported into Washington on the downlow?
« Reply #74 on: December 25, 2019, 06:57:39 PM »
It’s not hard for wolves to avoid detection. I’ve been getting them on cam
In the teanaway the last 5/6 years and had never seen one. This year while deer hunting, same area my cams are in, was the first time I’d ever heard them howl. They were in the back of the drainage I was hunting.

I haven't hung cameras in the Teanaway,  but ihunted deer there a few years back.     One drainage was absolutely covered in wolf tracks.   

I'd never hunted among wolf tracks that thick. 

But I have seen several sets of wolf pics off Teanaway trail cams. 

I've never seen tracks or gotten them on cams in the Yakima.   I'm not saying theyre not there.  I just haven't seen sign.  Wouldn't shock me at all if there were some.
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