Best muzzleloader?

[crabcreekhunter]

I see there is a post for a muzzleloader for a new muzzle loader hunter, which I am, but looking for the best?  What's the best out there without price being a factor for washington? Remington uml?

[Reidus]

If you want the best ballistic performance a 45 cal smokeless muzzleloader. Use bh209 and fullbore bullets.  Probably have to have one custom built. Next best thing is probably a rem 700 ultimate in terms of performance. Take a look at some of the rifles arrowhead sporting goods sells.

[Pinetar]

I own nine muzzle loaders from traditional round ball rifles to in-lines and have hunted with them for 35 years. My two Rem UML's are lights out. Super accurate and dependable with the ignition system they use.

The best price on one is Carpsniperg2 (Matt)

[crabcreekhunter]

Thanks for the replies guys, shot them a little bit but not enough to know what is good or not personally.  I was leaning towards the remington and will probably go that route over custom at this point.  I'll try and get ahold of carpsniper

[The Big Game Hunter]

If price isn't an issue and you don't care about the muzzleloader being northwest legal, then the CVA Paramount and the Remington UML are the two top dogs when it comes to off the shelf (not custom) muzzleloaders that shoot a black powder substitute. The two muzzleloaders have similar performance, but go about things in a different way.

The Remington UML can safely use a larger powder charge (200gr of BH209), but it uses a modified Barnes muzzleloader bullet with a sabot. That Barnes bullet is great, but it has a pretty typical BC for a muzzleloader bullet (.210 in this case).

On the other hand, the CVA Paramount uses a large powder charge, but not quite as large as the Remington UML (150gr of BH209). However, the Paramount uses a much more aerodynamic PowerBelt ELR bullet.

Both muzzleloaders are very, very accurate and are effective out to 300 yards or so (maybe a little further) in the right hands. It's really a matter of personal preference as to which one is "better".

https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/best-muzzleloaders/

[bornhunter]

Tagging along here. Which Rem UML model is the best in 50 cal?  I bought the bighorn a couple of years ago and not thrilled with it. This is the first I have heard of the UML. Anyone know the closest dealer to Chehalis?

[Reidus]

You could probably shoot a parker match hunter or similar in a sabot and get around a 0.4 bc. (0.453 bc @ 2800fps).

[lazydrifter]

https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/cva-paramount-pro-muzzleloader-rifle-50-cal-pr3520n.html

[Pinetar]

Tagging along here. Which Rem UML model is the best in 50 cal?  I bought the bighorn a couple of years ago and not thrilled with it. This is the first I have heard of the UML. Anyone know the closest dealer to Chehalis?

I have both Rem UML's, they both are great rifles and shoot awesome! Not sure on dealer by Chehalis but you can't beat Carpsniperg2 price on one.

[bornhunter]

 

Tagging along here. Which Rem UML model is the best in 50 cal?  I bought the bighorn a couple of years ago and not thrilled with it. This is the first I have heard of the UML. Anyone know the closest dealer to Chehalis?

I have both Rem UML's, they both are great rifles and shoot awesome! Not sure on dealer by Chehalis but you can't beat Carpsniperg2 price on one.

[Rainier10]

I’m sure @Sabotloader will chime in on this. He has a ton of experience on this subject.

I’m guessing he will have a couple suggestions based on a few different priorities.

“Best” can mean different things for different people and applications.

[MtnMuley]

If Sabothunter recommends or tells me to do do something muzzy wise, I do it. If Reidus recommends or tells me to do something muzzy wise, I do it. Can't be any easier for me.

[treefarmer]

So is the Remington ultimate not legal in Washington ? 

[JimmyHoffa]

It is.  Since the law changed 2 years ago.

[Rainier10]

If price isn't an issue and you don't care about the muzzleloader being northwest legal, then the CVA Paramount and the Remington UML are the two top dogs when it comes to off the shelf (not custom) muzzleloaders that shoot a black powder substitute. The two muzzleloaders have similar performance, but go about things in a different way.

The Remington UML can safely use a larger powder charge (200gr of BH209), but it uses a modified Barnes muzzleloader bullet with a sabot. That Barnes bullet is great, but it has a pretty typical BC for a muzzleloader bullet (.210 in this case).

On the other hand, the CVA Paramount uses a large powder charge, but not quite as large as the Remington UML (150gr of BH209). However, the Paramount uses a much more aerodynamic PowerBelt ELR bullet.

Both muzzleloaders are very, very accurate and are effective out to 300 yards or so (maybe a little further) in the right hands. It's really a matter of personal preference as to which one is "better".

https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/best-muzzleloaders/

There is some very helpful information in the link you posted.