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Offline Bob33

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Re: Points are the Devil!
« Reply #75 on: January 15, 2020, 02:08:15 PM »
Nonresidents Are Selling Preference Points Under Wyoming's Liberal Party Hunt Draw Regulations

https://www.mtnpursuit.org/nonresidents_are_selling_preference_points_under_wyoming_s_party_hunt_draw_regulations
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Re: Points are the Devil!
« Reply #76 on: January 15, 2020, 02:18:18 PM »
I'm not sure how WY's rules are "liberal" as the article states, as far as I know every state averages the same way.  The only difference I know of is if they round up or round down or keep the decimal and how they treat combined res/nonres.

If you want to hunt the premium units, you need to break out the checkbook one way or another.

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Re: Points are the Devil!
« Reply #77 on: January 15, 2020, 02:26:26 PM »
I've heard that Colorado does not average points, but instead they simply use the points of the party member who has the lowest number. Not sure if that's true though, as I don't apply in Colorado.

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Re: Points are the Devil!
« Reply #78 on: January 15, 2020, 02:31:07 PM »
Just looked it up, you are correct for CO, I don't apply there either.

Anyway, I don't apply as a party but don't really care one way or another, it's just noise in a broken system in my opinion.

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Re: Points are the Devil!
« Reply #79 on: January 15, 2020, 06:00:51 PM »
I've heard that Colorado does not average points, but instead they simply use the points of the party member who has the lowest number. Not sure if that's true though, as I don't apply in Colorado.

Correct. Montana does the same

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Re: Points are the Devil!
« Reply #80 on: January 15, 2020, 06:57:14 PM »
People “selling” their points is definitely a thing. It’s just a biproduct of the rules as they are. I’m not sure how they could put a stop to it while keeping averages for party apps. I really don’t think it’s a rampant or issue that really needs to be solved. It certainly doesn’t hurt the other people with Max or near max points. Ans is probably a small group for the mid range point units. Heck I applied this year with buddies having less points so basically the same thing... I’ll make them buy me lunch so then I can be a points seller too.  :chuckle:

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Re: Points are the Devil!
« Reply #81 on: January 15, 2020, 07:06:39 PM »
People “selling” their points is definitely a thing. It’s just a biproduct of the rules as they are. I’m not sure how they could put a stop to it while keeping averages for party apps. I really don’t think it’s a rampant or issue that really needs to be solved. It certainly doesn’t hurt the other people with Max or near max points. Ans is probably a small group for the mid range point units. Heck I applied this year with buddies having less points so basically the same thing... I’ll make them buy me lunch so then I can be a points seller too.  :chuckle:

Agreed. It’s a mutual agreement between the parties. I wouldn’t personally do it but to each their own
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Re: Points are the Devil!
« Reply #82 on: January 15, 2020, 07:49:03 PM »
I've heard that Colorado does not average points, but instead they simply use the points of the party member who has the lowest number. Not sure if that's true though, as I don't apply in Colorado.

Correct. Montana does the same

Montana averages points for the general license for sure (preference points).

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Up to 5 applicants may apply as a party. FWP shall use an average of the number of preference points accumulated by those applicants to determine the party's preference points.

I thought they did for special permits (bonus points), but I couldn't find anything on the website or internet.

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Re: Points are the Devil!
« Reply #83 on: January 15, 2020, 08:22:59 PM »
A better option for accelerated license opportunities is to buy points for youth.   Your kids, grand kids, nieces and nephews, or just about anyone.  They can start buying points at the age 11 and are youth until they are 18.  Points only cost youth $10 a piece per year and the licenses are super cheap.  You don't have to have a hunter safety card to apply for licenses or buy points.  You only have to have the card on person when actually hunting.  With all that said, some people are putting youth that don't hunt and wont be hunting. They apply in a party with these kids once they have built up points (5 to 8 points) and then draw licenses sharing the points and eating the cost of the points and the cheap youth license.  A youth deer license is only a little over $100 if I remember correctly.

The reason you don't here the state of Wyoming making a big deal about it is because all they care about is getting their money.
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