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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2020, 10:16:13 AM »
Thanks wolfbait, be careful out there

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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2020, 10:46:47 AM »
"After she was dragged away by wolves, at the end only her skull could be found in the fields"


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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2020, 11:19:40 AM »
 I had to stop reading. Too many kids on that list, and the details of their remains is mind crushing for the parents who find them. What a sick joke re-introduction has turned out to be.
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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2020, 08:55:44 PM »
Thanks wolfbait, be careful out there

Thankfully the USFWS and WDFW's wolves are shy, timid creatures that avoid humans.... :rolleyes:

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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2020, 05:09:56 AM »
And most of those Wolves are scrawny little things, not these huge F N Grey Wolves. If those countries had these Wolves they aint fighting off s^%$t
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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2020, 05:13:34 AM »
People dont realize, even aside from canada and alaska, there are tons of wolves all over asia and europe.  Idiots calling wolves "endangered" drive me crazy.  :bash:

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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2020, 07:16:25 AM »
Lotta foreign wolves doing work, time to
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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2020, 07:42:56 AM »
sad to think that building a list of like attacks here will be required to get the huggers back in check with wolves, most likely a generational cycle to fix this poor decision..
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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2020, 09:23:30 AM »
I don't see listing wolf attacks in Iran, Iraq, Russia, and Kazahkstan as having any effect on policy in the US.  In fact, I'd suggest its actually counterproductive to the point the OP is trying to make about the dangers of wolves in the US. 
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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2020, 09:26:38 AM »
I don't see listing wolf attacks in Iran, Iraq, Russia, and Kazahkstan as having any effect on policy in the US.  In fact, I'd suggest its actually counterproductive to the point the OP is trying to make about the dangers of wolves in the US.

There's a lot wrong with what you just said, and sicking once fully unpacked.


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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2020, 10:36:25 AM »
David Mech probably said it best in a late 1990's article:

As wolf populations begin to recover in both the Lake Superior and western regions of the United States, it is important that people understand this situation. Wolves are large carnivores. Like bears, cougars and domestic dogs, they should be regarded as potentially dangerous. This does not mean that wolves should be viewed with an unhealthy fear or that we must return to the days when wolves were regarded as demons. It only means that we should view wolves with the same healthy respect due any potentially dangerous animal.

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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2020, 11:07:24 AM »
Wolves are large carnivores. Like bears, cougars and domestic dogs, they should be regarded as potentially dangerous.

I've never been surrounded by a "pack" of bears  :rolleyes:  or a "pack" of mt lions  :rolleyes:     (I'm leaving domestic dogs out of this as its dumb)


wolves are different because they come with that mob mentality, the bigger the mob (pack) the more likely something will go wrong because they're emboldened and it only takes one to make the decision to "go"


In singles, treat them like any other predator, but in big packs....not so much

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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2020, 11:26:34 AM »
 :yeah:   Only thing like wolves is more wolves no matter what anyone tries to make you believe.......

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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2020, 11:40:56 AM »
Two things, a number of those listed are from N America, and it's not complete. For example, my neighbor was stalked and then attacked by a wolf while hunting a few years ago, he shot from the hip, hit the animal in mid air as it leaped toward him, it hit the ground dropped a piece of bone and ran the other way. He took WDFW to the location, it was all confirmed. That was not mentioned in the listings, how many other attacks have happened but weren't mentioned?
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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2020, 11:53:20 AM »
I just don't understand why people want to say wolves in europe, asia or russia are different than our own? 

Those wolves in those countries have just gotten further along in the predator vs prey decline and haven't been controlled enough, like our wolves are not being controlled enough in WA. 

I have hope for Idaho, MT and WY...but WA is screwed until enough pain is felt, and that pain will have to be felt on the W side of the state closer to home. 
People will have to become afraid to go for strolls in nature, they'll have to loose a lot of pets. 

Their grandpa's house in the "country" will loose their two goldendoodles, their 3 crippled rescue horses,  a llama....and of course their mini donkey too  :'(     

once all that happens, then we can talk wolf...but not until then. 

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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2020, 12:16:32 PM »
I just don't understand why people want to say wolves in europe, asia or russia are different than our own? 

Those wolves in those countries have just gotten further along in the predator vs prey decline and haven't been controlled enough, like our wolves are not being controlled enough in WA. 

I have hope for Idaho, MT and WY...but WA is screwed until enough pain is felt, and that pain will have to be felt on the W side of the state closer to home. 
People will have to become afraid to go for strolls in nature, they'll have to loose a lot of pets. 

Their grandpa's house in the "country" will loose their two goldendoodles, their 3 crippled rescue horses,  a llama....and of course their mini donkey too  :'(     

once all that happens, then we can talk wolf...but not until then.


By then wdfw will call in the hired guns and we wont know the extent of the operation for a few years after the fact......

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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2020, 12:24:51 PM »
Wolves are large carnivores. Like bears, cougars and domestic dogs, they should be regarded as potentially dangerous.

I've never been surrounded by a "pack" of bears  :rolleyes:  or a "pack" of mt lions  :rolleyes:     (I'm leaving domestic dogs out of this as its dumb)



Geeze KF, I could make you a list many times larger than this one of dog attacks, and just in the USA. Yet people welcome dogs into their homes and live with them.  I'd even be willing to bet that more people reading this have been bitten or attacked by dogs than by wolves. Just look at the pitbull thread for starters. And if you looked at a list of dog attacks, many of the victims are also kids.

Respect wild predators or any wild animal for that matter.....sure.  But trying to stir up unreasonable fear of them like wolfbait always does is irresponsible.

By the way wolfbait, how's that hydatid cyst tapeworm outbreak that you predicted coming along?
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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2020, 02:20:39 PM »
It's going to take an in state wolf killing of a human for anything to be addressed. Even then it will be overscruinized and made to look like the victim was at fault or the wolf was rabid, malnutritioned, etc
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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2020, 04:14:13 PM »
Wolves are large carnivores. Like bears, cougars and domestic dogs, they should be regarded as potentially dangerous.

I've never been surrounded by a "pack" of bears  :rolleyes:  or a "pack" of mt lions  :rolleyes:     (I'm leaving domestic dogs out of this as its dumb)



Geeze KF, I could make you a list many times larger than this one of dog attacks, and just in the USA. Yet people welcome dogs into their homes and live with them.  I'd even be willing to bet that more people reading this have been bitten or attacked by dogs than by wolves. Just look at the pitbull thread for starters. And if you looked at a list of dog attacks, many of the victims are also kids.

Respect wild predators or any wild animal for that matter.....sure.  But trying to stir up unreasonable fear of them like wolfbait always does is irresponsible.

By the way wolfbait, how's that hydatid cyst tapeworm outbreak that you predicted coming along?
We're looking at this from opoosite perspectives.  I think it's a sin to tell the public there's nothing to fear from wolves, which is what we've been hearing for years and years.

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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2020, 04:58:33 PM »
Wolves are large carnivores. Like bears, cougars and domestic dogs, they should be regarded as potentially dangerous.

I've never been surrounded by a "pack" of bears  :rolleyes:  or a "pack" of mt lions  :rolleyes:     (I'm leaving domestic dogs out of this as its dumb)



Geeze KF, I could make you a list many times larger than this one of dog attacks, and just in the USA. Yet people welcome dogs into their homes and live with them.  I'd even be willing to bet that more people reading this have been bitten or attacked by dogs than by wolves. Just look at the pitbull thread for starters. And if you looked at a list of dog attacks, many of the victims are also kids.

Respect wild predators or any wild animal for that matter.....sure.  But trying to stir up unreasonable fear of them like wolfbait always does is irresponsible.

By the way wolfbait, how's that hydatid cyst tapeworm outbreak that you predicted coming along?
We're looking at this from opoosite perspectives. I think it's a sin to tell the public there's nothing to fear from wolves, which is what we've been hearing for years and years.

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I've never read or heard of a credible source suggesting there is nothing to fear from wolves.  Maybe some bunny hugger pushes that narrative, but no credible source would say such a thing about wolves, or really any wild animal. 
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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2020, 09:42:13 AM »
Wolves and human contact

Wolves are shy by nature and typically avoid human contact. As with all wildlife, wolves should never be fed or approached, as they could become habituated to people. Campsites and other areas of human occupation should be kept free of accessible garbage or food.

In the very rare chance of a close encounter with a wolf, people should take the same steps as with cougars and bears to avoid problems – stand tall, act aggressively, raise your voice or shout, don’t run, and slowly back away while facing the animal.

Wolves usually consider domestic dogs (Canis lupus familiaris) as territorial threats and may attack and kill them. Responsible dog owners need to keep pets safe when recreating or living in wild country. Dogs should be kept on a leash or kept close by when walking or hiking in areas with wolves.

Because wolves are listed as a state and federal endangered species, it is illegal to kill, harm, or harass them. Wolf sightings and suspected wolf depredation on domestic animals should be reported to federal or state authorities who will investigate incidents and take appropriate action to resolve problems.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/species-habitats/at-risk/species-recovery/gray-wolf/history

WDFW Resisted Sending Helicopter To Save Woman Treed By Wolves
https://www.opb.org/news/article/wdfw-helicopter-woman-wolves/



And then there’s ADFG


https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/species/livingwithwildlife/pdfs/wolf_safety_brochure.pdf

There are thousands of wolves in Alaska and thousands of people who live, work and enjoy outdoor activities in wolf country. Wolves survive by preying on large animals, but aggression by wolves toward people is rare; much less common than aggressive behavior by bears or moose. Yet there are instances when wolves can threaten or injure people and pets.

Wolf Defensive Behavior

Unlike bears, which usually attack when they feel that they, their cubs or their food are threatened, wolves rely on their speed and quickness to escape a threat. Wolves may dash toward an intruder but then veer off suddenly with sharp barks and snorts. They may then retreat and howl if near a den, or they may hide and remain silent if flushed from a kill. Wolves are usually extremely aggressive only

in self-defense, such as when cornered, caught in a trap, or after being pursued. An injured wolf may act aggressively as a desperate last resort.

When wolves lose their fear of people...

Animals gradually lose their natural avoidance to people when they are protected from harm by people, or where humans act passively towards them. This is called habituation. Habituated wolves become ‘comfortable’ around people and may venture quite close to people. It is very important to understand that these ‘habituated’ wolves are actually the ones most likely to suddenly act aggressively.

Wolves also quickly learn that food is often found in human garbage. When wolves seek out human foods they have become food-conditioned. If a wolf is fed by people it begins to expect handouts. If that wolf approaches a person but gets no food, it can become suddenly aggressive. This type of aggression is probably responsible for many of the bites that wolves have inflicted on people in recent years.


Wolf attacks on humans in North America

https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2013/11/29/wolf-attacks-on-humans-in-north-america/

When wolves lose their fear of people...

"Animals gradually lose their natural avoidance to people when they are protected from harm by people, or where humans act passively towards them. This is called habituation. Habituated wolves become ‘comfortable’ around people and may venture quite close to people. It is very important to understand that these ‘habituated’ wolves are actually the ones most likely to suddenly act aggressively.”

Wolves are hunted and trapped in Alaska, while Washington’s wolves are promoted and protected above all else...


Because wolves are listed as a state and federal endangered species, it is illegal to kill, harm, or harass them.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/species-habitats/at-risk/species-recovery/gray-wolf/history
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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2020, 08:38:07 PM »
Wolves are naturally wary of you . . . until they are chewing on your leg. :hello:
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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2020, 08:39:22 PM »
Wolves and human contact

Wolves are shy by nature and typically avoid human contact. As with all wildlife, wolves should never be fed or approached, as they could become habituated to people. Campsites and other areas of human occupation should be kept free of accessible garbage or food.

In the very rare chance of a close encounter with a wolf, people should take the same steps as with cougars and bears to avoid problems – stand tall, act aggressively, raise your voice or shout, don’t run, and slowly back away while facing the animal.

Wolves usually consider domestic dogs (Canis lupus familiaris) as territorial threats and may attack and kill them. Responsible dog owners need to keep pets safe when recreating or living in wild country. Dogs should be kept on a leash or kept close by when walking or hiking in areas with wolves.

Because wolves are listed as a state and federal endangered species, it is illegal to kill, harm, or harass them. Wolf sightings and suspected wolf depredation on domestic animals should be reported to federal or state authorities who will investigate incidents and take appropriate action to resolve problems.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/species-habitats/at-risk/species-recovery/gray-wolf/history

WDFW Resisted Sending Helicopter To Save Woman Treed By Wolves
https://www.opb.org/news/article/wdfw-helicopter-woman-wolves/



And then there’s ADFG


https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/species/livingwithwildlife/pdfs/wolf_safety_brochure.pdf

There are thousands of wolves in Alaska and thousands of people who live, work and enjoy outdoor activities in wolf country. Wolves survive by preying on large animals, but aggression by wolves toward people is rare; much less common than aggressive behavior by bears or moose. Yet there are instances when wolves can threaten or injure people and pets.

Wolf Defensive Behavior

Unlike bears, which usually attack when they feel that they, their cubs or their food are threatened, wolves rely on their speed and quickness to escape a threat. Wolves may dash toward an intruder but then veer off suddenly with sharp barks and snorts. They may then retreat and howl if near a den, or they may hide and remain silent if flushed from a kill. Wolves are usually extremely aggressive only

in self-defense, such as when cornered, caught in a trap, or after being pursued. An injured wolf may act aggressively as a desperate last resort.

When wolves lose their fear of people...

Animals gradually lose their natural avoidance to people when they are protected from harm by people, or where humans act passively towards them. This is called habituation. Habituated wolves become ‘comfortable’ around people and may venture quite close to people. It is very important to understand that these ‘habituated’ wolves are actually the ones most likely to suddenly act aggressively.

Wolves also quickly learn that food is often found in human garbage. When wolves seek out human foods they have become food-conditioned. If a wolf is fed by people it begins to expect handouts. If that wolf approaches a person but gets no food, it can become suddenly aggressive. This type of aggression is probably responsible for many of the bites that wolves have inflicted on people in recent years.


Wolf attacks on humans in North America

https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2013/11/29/wolf-attacks-on-humans-in-north-america/

When wolves lose their fear of people...

"Animals gradually lose their natural avoidance to people when they are protected from harm by people, or where humans act passively towards them. This is called habituation. Habituated wolves become ‘comfortable’ around people and may venture quite close to people. It is very important to understand that these ‘habituated’ wolves are actually the ones most likely to suddenly act aggressively.”

Wolves are hunted and trapped in Alaska, while Washington’s wolves are promoted and protected above all else...


Because wolves are listed as a state and federal endangered species, it is illegal to kill, harm, or harass them.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/species-habitats/at-risk/species-recovery/gray-wolf/history
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theyre not federally listed here, for all the good that does us...

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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2020, 07:50:00 AM »
Wolves are large carnivores. Like bears, cougars and domestic dogs, they should be regarded as potentially dangerous.

I've never been surrounded by a "pack" of bears  :rolleyes:  or a "pack" of mt lions  :rolleyes:     (I'm leaving domestic dogs out of this as its dumb)



Geeze KF, I could make you a list many times larger than this one of dog attacks, and just in the USA. Yet people welcome dogs into their homes and live with them.  I'd even be willing to bet that more people reading this have been bitten or attacked by dogs than by wolves. Just look at the pitbull thread for starters. And if you looked at a list of dog attacks, many of the victims are also kids.

Respect wild predators or any wild animal for that matter.....sure.  But trying to stir up unreasonable fear of them like wolfbait always does is irresponsible.

By the way wolfbait, how's that hydatid cyst tapeworm outbreak that you predicted coming along?
We're looking at this from opoosite perspectives.  I think it's a sin to tell the public there's nothing to fear from wolves, which is what we've been hearing for years and years.

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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2020, 09:20:54 AM »
Stiil feel that 2 eastside (non collared) wolves should be live trapped by individuals, transported in a covered vehicle and  released in Pioneer park, After all isn't this the area where the money is coming from to keep them on the endangered list. Would bet a dollar against a dog bone that quicker than a person could say Oh S--t they'd be complaining about to many wolves.
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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2020, 09:44:35 AM »
I think it would surprise many at the amount of people in the Methow that now pack because of wolves. A few weeks ago, I pulled over and talk to a couple of elderly ladies walking down the county road, I told them last week the neighbor had seen five wolves trotting down the middle of the road, I told them they should be armed out on their walks. One of the ladies pulled back her coat and showed me she was, and her friend was also. Not everyone believes wolves are the timid creatures that WDFW like to protect above all else..
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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2020, 10:23:25 AM »
Stiil feel that 2 eastside (non collared) wolves should be live trapped by individuals, transported in a covered vehicle and  released in Pioneer park, After all isn't this the area where the money is coming from to keep them on the endangered list. Would bet a dollar against a dog bone that quicker than a person could say Oh S--t they'd be complaining about to many wolves.

Not 2, 20.  2 wouldnt quite spice things up enough to make a point.

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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2020, 03:12:51 PM »
Stiil feel that 2 eastside (non collared) wolves should be live trapped by individuals, transported in a covered vehicle and  released in Pioneer park, After all isn't this the area where the money is coming from to keep them on the endangered list. Would bet a dollar against a dog bone that quicker than a person could say Oh S--t they'd be complaining about to many wolves.

Not 2, 20.  2 wouldnt quite spice things up enough to make a point.

Is there "good science" behind that statement? As long as there are enough breeding pairs to meet the delisting requirement for the Westside we should be good.
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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2020, 03:15:15 PM »
Good science behind my statement of how many wolves i think it would take to raise hell if suddenly dumped in an urban area and make the coasties flip their lids?  No.  No there is not.  Its purely speculation on my part.  With some wishful thinking thrown in.  The less we have here, and the more they have there, the happier id be.

If i could push a big red magic button, and transport every wolf in stevens, ferry and pend orielle counties over to king, pierce and snohomish where theyre apparently wanted, id do it this very second.  You want em?  You got em.  Enjoy.

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Re: List of wolf attacks
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2020, 03:38:20 PM »
Good science behind my statement of how many wolves i think it would take to raise hell if suddenly dumped in an urban area and make the coasties flip their lids?  No.  No there is not.  Its purely speculation on my part.  With some wishful thinking thrown in.  The less we have here, and the more they have there, the happier id be.

If i could push a big red magic button, and transport every wolf in stevens, ferry and pend orielle counties over to king, pierce and snohomish where theyre apparently wanted, id do it this very second.  You want em?  You got em.  Enjoy.

As far as science goes  "more = better"   when it comes to wolves on the W Side. 

 


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