Inslee's Hunting/Fishing License Fee Bill Introduced Contains Pros & Cons

[KFhunter]

Why doesn’t the state ask for more money from the people that they’ve been bending over, cowing down for. Mainly the non hunting/environmental people. The non native sportsman/ hunting/ fishing types been paying and paying  and blatantly get less and less. The state can eat doo doo.

[Southpole]

 

[lokidog]

 

Though I also think youth should be just that, anyone under 18......

[ipkus]

I think the main question here is who do you want to control the price of licenses; the increasingly democrat controlled legislature or the WDFW Commission?

Let's face it prices will go up, may not be this year, may not be next year, but it will happen. The whole reason behind authorizing the commission to tack on a surcharge to cover inflation is because the legislature is sick of having to debate hunting and fishing fees every few years, they don't see it as a legislative issue but rather a commission issue.

Before long, the Commission will be full of Inslee appointees, so what exactly is better about giving them control instead of the legislature??

[Bango skank]

I think the main question here is who do you want to control the price of licenses; the increasingly democrat controlled legislature or the WDFW Commission?

Let's face it prices will go up, may not be this year, may not be next year, but it will happen. The whole reason behind authorizing the commission to tack on a surcharge to cover inflation is because the legislature is sick of having to debate hunting and fishing fees every few years, they don't see it as a legislative issue but rather a commission issue.

Before long, the Commission will be full of Inslee appointees, so what exactly is better about giving them control instead of the legislature??

It already is dude.  Every one of them.  Appointed by inslee.

Thats what were up agsinst.  The deck is stacked against us.

[bigtex]

I think the main question here is who do you want to control the price of licenses; the increasingly democrat controlled legislature or the WDFW Commission?

Let's face it prices will go up, may not be this year, may not be next year, but it will happen. The whole reason behind authorizing the commission to tack on a surcharge to cover inflation is because the legislature is sick of having to debate hunting and fishing fees every few years, they don't see it as a legislative issue but rather a commission issue.

Before long, the Commission will be full of Inslee appointees, so what exactly is better about giving them control instead of the legislature??

I can see a time in the future (10+ years out, Inslee will be long gone) where the legislature has gone so liberal that their way of reducing the animal killing hunters is by increasing license fees significantly, if we keep it in the hands of the legislature that could happen. The commission is actually mandated to maximize hunting, fishing, etc. opportunities, the legislature is not.

[Bango skank]

I think the main question here is who do you want to control the price of licenses; the increasingly democrat controlled legislature or the WDFW Commission?

Let's face it prices will go up, may not be this year, may not be next year, but it will happen. The whole reason behind authorizing the commission to tack on a surcharge to cover inflation is because the legislature is sick of having to debate hunting and fishing fees every few years, they don't see it as a legislative issue but rather a commission issue.

Before long, the Commission will be full of Inslee appointees, so what exactly is better about giving them control instead of the legislature??

I can see a time in the future (10+ years out, Inslee will be long gone) where the legislature has gone so liberal that their way of reducing the animal killing hunters is by increasing license fees significantly, if we keep it in the hands of the legislature that could happen. The commission is actually mandated to maximize hunting, fishing, etc. opportunities, the legislature is not.

Well theyre not holding up to that mandate at all.  Theyre failing miserably.  The commission needs to be comprised of people who know sonething about wildlife.  Not women living on houseboats in seattle.

[idahohuntr]

I think the main question here is who do you want to control the price of licenses; the increasingly democrat controlled legislature or the WDFW Commission?

Let's face it prices will go up, may not be this year, may not be next year, but it will happen. The whole reason behind authorizing the commission to tack on a surcharge to cover inflation is because the legislature is sick of having to debate hunting and fishing fees every few years, they don't see it as a legislative issue but rather a commission issue.

Before long, the Commission will be full of Inslee appointees, so what exactly is better about giving them control instead of the legislature??

I can see a time in the future (10+ years out, Inslee will be long gone) where the legislature has gone so liberal that their way of reducing the animal killing hunters is by increasing license fees significantly, if we keep it in the hands of the legislature that could happen. The commission is actually mandated to maximize hunting, fishing, etc. opportunities, the legislature is not.

I understand the point you are trying to make - but a group of ultra liberal anti hunting appointees with no accountability in the electorate process is not better than having the legislature set and debate fee bills...at least the east side will still have representation and some political diversity in the legislature. 

Also - the legislature has to look at all sorts of funding and fee issues across the state - and can balance/prioritize as every agency clamors for more $$.  An unelected commission is NEVER going to reduce the budget for the agency/mission they are charged with overseeing...but even a liberal legislature might not be so inclined...or at least they will be more concerned with raising other fees to pay for homeless shelters and not even take up hunting/license fee bills. 

[Fl0und3rz]

I think the main question here is who do you want to control the price of licenses; the increasingly democrat controlled legislature or the WDFW Commission?

Let's face it prices will go up, may not be this year, may not be next year, but it will happen. The whole reason behind authorizing the commission to tack on a surcharge to cover inflation is because the legislature is sick of having to debate hunting and fishing fees every few years, they don't see it as a legislative issue but rather a commission issue.

Lazy legislators is not a compelling argument for giving a commission authority to charge more to feather their nests.

[Ghost Hunter]

The surcharge red flagged it for me.  The rest is smoke & mirrors.

[Special T]

I think the main question here is who do you want to control the price of licenses; the increasingly democrat controlled legislature or the WDFW Commission?

Let's face it prices will go up, may not be this year, may not be next year, but it will happen. The whole reason behind authorizing the commission to tack on a surcharge to cover inflation is because the legislature is sick of having to debate hunting and fishing fees every few years, they don't see it as a legislative issue but rather a commission issue.

Before long, the Commission will be full of Inslee appointees, so what exactly is better about giving them control instead of the legislature??

We never know what the future holds but we have a pretty good commission right now.

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[ipkus]

I think the main question here is who do you want to control the price of licenses; the increasingly democrat controlled legislature or the WDFW Commission?

Let's face it prices will go up, may not be this year, may not be next year, but it will happen. The whole reason behind authorizing the commission to tack on a surcharge to cover inflation is because the legislature is sick of having to debate hunting and fishing fees every few years, they don't see it as a legislative issue but rather a commission issue.

Before long, the Commission will be full of Inslee appointees, so what exactly is better about giving them control instead of the legislature??

It already is dude.  Every one of them.  Appointed by inslee.

Thats what were up agsinst.  The deck is stacked against us.

Commissioners Carpenter and Smith were not appointed by Governor Bumblefutz.

I would rather the legislature continue to be “bothered” by WDFW’s funding issues that are primarily driven by their dismal performance.  It provides a needed layer of accountability that you lose with this proposal.  An irritated legislature may finally force some of the changes needed within WDFW.  The Commission can only do so much.

[hunter399]

The commission gets there fog gogles put on by WDFW all the time .The commission is never left to make decisions on there own .It's always blind sided by WDFW on topics all the time.Both commission and WDFW #1 job is to protect wildlife with sustainable populations ,Which they have failed and continue to fail each year.

The funny part is .
I've been telling WDFW and commission for years through emails for years that there licence increases won't be approved .Because they continue not to be able to meet there own department goals of sustainable population's.
It should stay the way it is.It provides accountability when everybody is unhappy with mangement of wildlife in the state.
The truth.
When I look at there 3 year mangement plan -number one goal is increased Hunter opportunity aka.(selling tags) and way down on the very bottom of goals is sustained populations.That's a problem for me.There so stupid that if sustainable population is at the top, tags will sell themselves.

Honestly I hope it doesn't go through .This year has been a money grab year from the state on all kinds of levels .Useing the 30 dollar car tabs as an excuse .Then not even giving 30 dollar car tabs what a joke.

[BULLBLASTER]

Not sure it’s been said in this thread but everyone should be emailing their reps about bills they either support or oppose. You can’t sit idly by and watch if you have a strong opinion.

I have emailed mine about this.

[KFhunter]

Not sure it’s been said in this thread but everyone should be emailing their reps about bills they either support or oppose. You can’t sit idly by and watch if you have a strong opinion.

I have emailed mine about this.

Great idea,  I'm going to use some of Idahohnter's words, he was spot on in this debate