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Quote from: idaho guy on March 29, 2020, 11:13:16 AMQuote from: dilleytech on March 29, 2020, 08:27:36 AMQuote from: Bango skank on March 28, 2020, 08:56:30 AMQuote from: dilleytech on March 28, 2020, 08:51:11 AMPeople won’t even send in a tooth. They think guys are going to pack a wet hide out of the backcountry just to comply with the law? Sadly most wont. If they want full compliance they need to clarify the exact pieces of the hide they need to seal not the entire thing.We should expect a drastic decline in reported harvests this spring. But I suppose that’s what they want..Do you really think there are that many bear hunters that dont want to keep the hides? I bet most do want them. And just like cougar, a taxidermist wont take an unsealed spring bear hide now. If you want to keep the hide, have it tanned, rugged or whatever, you will have to have it checked. I really dont think the percentage of guys hunting spring bear that dont want to keep the hides is very significant.The tooth thing is a bad comparison because a guy could always keep his hide, meat, skull and not send in the tooth, there was nothing to stop him from doing that. But now if you want to take your hide in to a taxidermist, youll have to have it sealed or the taxi wont take it.Absolutely and I’m one of them. Bear hunters tend to be guys who kill them on a regular basis and how many bear hides do you need? The guy who randomly kills a bear on a deer hunt once in his life is usually not the guy going on spring bear hunts every year. I have no interest in a bear hide at this point. Also I got my cougar rug last year. Further cougars would likely be for the meat and predator control same with bears. One bear rug one cougar rug one bear hide and one bear shoulder mount Is good for our house. My bear hide from last fall went into the garbage. This rule needs clarified to specific portions of the hide if there’s any realistic compliance. Threw hide in the garbage? If it’s a nice bear you could sell Moscow hide and fur for 100 to 200 dollars. At least your not wasting it. I have a bear rug a shoulder mount and at least 20 hides hanging on log type coat hangers I posted a pic on man cave thread. I have kept all my bear hides they don’t take much room hanging how I have them and looks pretty cool. I don’t care what anyone does with a hide but couple on here throwing in garbage is a little silly at least sell it. Whining about packing out a bear hide is a little woosie :chuckle Idaho said leave the meat and have to take the hide this was mostly for the hounds men since you can end up in some pretty crappy places for a pack.I have also never saved a elk or deer hide. Was that wasteful? I guess so.. oh well I like bear meat and I like bear skulls. Anyone can say whatever they want like why wouldn’t you pack an extra 80# of garbage 6 miles? Really? In regards to another post my last cougar was skinned and half frozen when I had it sealed. Bio didn’t have any issues with that. They did want to know exactly where it was killed which I did not care to share with them.
Quote from: dilleytech on March 29, 2020, 08:27:36 AMQuote from: Bango skank on March 28, 2020, 08:56:30 AMQuote from: dilleytech on March 28, 2020, 08:51:11 AMPeople won’t even send in a tooth. They think guys are going to pack a wet hide out of the backcountry just to comply with the law? Sadly most wont. If they want full compliance they need to clarify the exact pieces of the hide they need to seal not the entire thing.We should expect a drastic decline in reported harvests this spring. But I suppose that’s what they want..Do you really think there are that many bear hunters that dont want to keep the hides? I bet most do want them. And just like cougar, a taxidermist wont take an unsealed spring bear hide now. If you want to keep the hide, have it tanned, rugged or whatever, you will have to have it checked. I really dont think the percentage of guys hunting spring bear that dont want to keep the hides is very significant.The tooth thing is a bad comparison because a guy could always keep his hide, meat, skull and not send in the tooth, there was nothing to stop him from doing that. But now if you want to take your hide in to a taxidermist, youll have to have it sealed or the taxi wont take it.Absolutely and I’m one of them. Bear hunters tend to be guys who kill them on a regular basis and how many bear hides do you need? The guy who randomly kills a bear on a deer hunt once in his life is usually not the guy going on spring bear hunts every year. I have no interest in a bear hide at this point. Also I got my cougar rug last year. Further cougars would likely be for the meat and predator control same with bears. One bear rug one cougar rug one bear hide and one bear shoulder mount Is good for our house. My bear hide from last fall went into the garbage. This rule needs clarified to specific portions of the hide if there’s any realistic compliance. Threw hide in the garbage? If it’s a nice bear you could sell Moscow hide and fur for 100 to 200 dollars. At least your not wasting it. I have a bear rug a shoulder mount and at least 20 hides hanging on log type coat hangers I posted a pic on man cave thread. I have kept all my bear hides they don’t take much room hanging how I have them and looks pretty cool. I don’t care what anyone does with a hide but couple on here throwing in garbage is a little silly at least sell it. Whining about packing out a bear hide is a little woosie :chuckle Idaho said leave the meat and have to take the hide this was mostly for the hounds men since you can end up in some pretty crappy places for a pack.
Quote from: Bango skank on March 28, 2020, 08:56:30 AMQuote from: dilleytech on March 28, 2020, 08:51:11 AMPeople won’t even send in a tooth. They think guys are going to pack a wet hide out of the backcountry just to comply with the law? Sadly most wont. If they want full compliance they need to clarify the exact pieces of the hide they need to seal not the entire thing.We should expect a drastic decline in reported harvests this spring. But I suppose that’s what they want..Do you really think there are that many bear hunters that dont want to keep the hides? I bet most do want them. And just like cougar, a taxidermist wont take an unsealed spring bear hide now. If you want to keep the hide, have it tanned, rugged or whatever, you will have to have it checked. I really dont think the percentage of guys hunting spring bear that dont want to keep the hides is very significant.The tooth thing is a bad comparison because a guy could always keep his hide, meat, skull and not send in the tooth, there was nothing to stop him from doing that. But now if you want to take your hide in to a taxidermist, youll have to have it sealed or the taxi wont take it.Absolutely and I’m one of them. Bear hunters tend to be guys who kill them on a regular basis and how many bear hides do you need? The guy who randomly kills a bear on a deer hunt once in his life is usually not the guy going on spring bear hunts every year. I have no interest in a bear hide at this point. Also I got my cougar rug last year. Further cougars would likely be for the meat and predator control same with bears. One bear rug one cougar rug one bear hide and one bear shoulder mount Is good for our house. My bear hide from last fall went into the garbage. This rule needs clarified to specific portions of the hide if there’s any realistic compliance.
Quote from: dilleytech on March 28, 2020, 08:51:11 AMPeople won’t even send in a tooth. They think guys are going to pack a wet hide out of the backcountry just to comply with the law? Sadly most wont. If they want full compliance they need to clarify the exact pieces of the hide they need to seal not the entire thing.We should expect a drastic decline in reported harvests this spring. But I suppose that’s what they want..Do you really think there are that many bear hunters that dont want to keep the hides? I bet most do want them. And just like cougar, a taxidermist wont take an unsealed spring bear hide now. If you want to keep the hide, have it tanned, rugged or whatever, you will have to have it checked. I really dont think the percentage of guys hunting spring bear that dont want to keep the hides is very significant.The tooth thing is a bad comparison because a guy could always keep his hide, meat, skull and not send in the tooth, there was nothing to stop him from doing that. But now if you want to take your hide in to a taxidermist, youll have to have it sealed or the taxi wont take it.
People won’t even send in a tooth. They think guys are going to pack a wet hide out of the backcountry just to comply with the law? Sadly most wont. If they want full compliance they need to clarify the exact pieces of the hide they need to seal not the entire thing.We should expect a drastic decline in reported harvests this spring. But I suppose that’s what they want..
Quote from: hunter399 on March 29, 2020, 12:18:17 PMQuote from: Bango skank on March 29, 2020, 12:10:32 PMI do get what your trying to get done.I'm just surprised they need any extra info with so little spring bear harvest.And sure hope were not going down that road of adding this to fall seasons.I hope you do understand what im getting at, and that others do too. Im not trying to be an ass. Im trying to get better predator management for the sake of our herds. This is a subject that is important to me, and i think changes to our bear hunting are a lot easier to get made than changes to lions, wolves, or getting legholds for coyotes. Im going for the low hanging fruit first and foremostWhat i want is to see as close to 100% reporting as possible on these spring bear hunts, and 100% compliance of hide sealing by successful hunters. Really, if packing the hide out is too much of a burden, just dont put in for spring permits.The only way we stand a chance at all of getting increased spring bear opportunities, whether that ends up being otc, or just additional units and increased permit numbers, is to prove that spring hunting doesnt result in a bunch of orphaned cubs. This is why everybody needs to report, whether they even hunt on the permit or not, and all successful hunters need to just suck it up and pack the hide out to be sealed. Its for our own good, to give us a chance at increased spring bear opportunity, and as a result help our deer, elk and moose recruitment. If a guy cant just man up and go along with this, wait to hunt bear until august, its not that much to ask.
Quote from: Bango skank on March 29, 2020, 12:10:32 PMI do get what your trying to get done.I'm just surprised they need any extra info with so little spring bear harvest.And sure hope were not going down that road of adding this to fall seasons.
No need to worry this season is a wash out anyway.
Quote from: hunter399 on April 07, 2020, 10:50:27 PMNo need to worry this season is a wash out anyway.Not in Idaho. At least so far for those with tags already. And they have the same hide regulation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: slim9300 on April 08, 2020, 09:00:40 AMQuote from: hunter399 on April 07, 2020, 10:50:27 PMNo need to worry this season is a wash out anyway.Not in Idaho. At least so far for those with tags already. And they have the same hide regulation. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkOpens in 1 week. Got my tags in december.
Quote from: dilleytech on March 29, 2020, 08:27:36 AMQuote from: Bango skank on March 28, 2020, 08:56:30 AMQuote from: dilleytech on March 28, 2020, 08:51:11 AMPeople won’t even send in a tooth. They think guys are going to pack a wet hide out of the backcountry just to comply with the law? Sadly most wont. If they want full compliance they need to clarify the exact pieces of the hide they need to seal not the entire thing.We should expect a drastic decline in reported harvests this spring. But I suppose that’s what they want..Do you really think there are that many bear hunters that dont want to keep the hides? I bet most do want them. And just like cougar, a taxidermist wont take an unsealed spring bear hide now. If you want to keep the hide, have it tanned, rugged or whatever, you will have to have it checked. I really dont think the percentage of guys hunting spring bear that dont want to keep the hides is very significant.The tooth thing is a bad comparison because a guy could always keep his hide, meat, skull and not send in the tooth, there was nothing to stop him from doing that. But now if you want to take your hide in to a taxidermist, youll have to have it sealed or the taxi wont take it.Absolutely and I’m one of them. Bear hunters tend to be guys who kill them on a regular basis and how many bear hides do you need? The guy who randomly kills a bear on a deer hunt once in his life is usually not the guy going on spring bear hunts every year. I have no interest in a bear hide at this point. Also I got my cougar rug last year. Further cougars would likely be for the meat and predator control same with bears. One bear rug one cougar rug one bear hide and one bear shoulder mount Is good for our house. My bear hide from last fall went into the garbage. This rule needs clarified to specific portions of the hide if there’s any realistic compliance.I fully agree. I bet 50% of successful bear hunters don’t want the hide. I don’t want another one unless it’s perfect and very unique. I just want the meat and skull. If I kill a bear in WA or ID, I’m packing out a 12”x12” section of hide with the proof of sex attached. They can seal that. That meets the legal requirement stated in the regs until they decide to update it to the complete hide. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: slim9300 on April 07, 2020, 10:07:53 PMQuote from: dilleytech on March 29, 2020, 08:27:36 AMQuote from: Bango skank on March 28, 2020, 08:56:30 AMQuote from: dilleytech on March 28, 2020, 08:51:11 AMPeople won’t even send in a tooth. They think guys are going to pack a wet hide out of the backcountry just to comply with the law? Sadly most wont. If they want full compliance they need to clarify the exact pieces of the hide they need to seal not the entire thing.We should expect a drastic decline in reported harvests this spring. But I suppose that’s what they want..Do you really think there are that many bear hunters that dont want to keep the hides? I bet most do want them. And just like cougar, a taxidermist wont take an unsealed spring bear hide now. If you want to keep the hide, have it tanned, rugged or whatever, you will have to have it checked. I really dont think the percentage of guys hunting spring bear that dont want to keep the hides is very significant.The tooth thing is a bad comparison because a guy could always keep his hide, meat, skull and not send in the tooth, there was nothing to stop him from doing that. But now if you want to take your hide in to a taxidermist, youll have to have it sealed or the taxi wont take it.Absolutely and I’m one of them. Bear hunters tend to be guys who kill them on a regular basis and how many bear hides do you need? The guy who randomly kills a bear on a deer hunt once in his life is usually not the guy going on spring bear hunts every year. I have no interest in a bear hide at this point. Also I got my cougar rug last year. Further cougars would likely be for the meat and predator control same with bears. One bear rug one cougar rug one bear hide and one bear shoulder mount Is good for our house. My bear hide from last fall went into the garbage. This rule needs clarified to specific portions of the hide if there’s any realistic compliance.I fully agree. I bet 50% of successful bear hunters don’t want the hide. I don’t want another one unless it’s perfect and very unique. I just want the meat and skull. If I kill a bear in WA or ID, I’m packing out a 12”x12” section of hide with the proof of sex attached. They can seal that. That meets the legal requirement stated in the regs until they decide to update it to the complete hide. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I don't think that will work in Idaho . My understanding is salvage and check entire hide with sex attached and skull. That's the way I have always done it. Just fyi
Quote from: idaho guy on April 08, 2020, 02:06:29 PMQuote from: slim9300 on April 07, 2020, 10:07:53 PMQuote from: dilleytech on March 29, 2020, 08:27:36 AMQuote from: Bango skank on March 28, 2020, 08:56:30 AMQuote from: dilleytech on March 28, 2020, 08:51:11 AMPeople won’t even send in a tooth. They think guys are going to pack a wet hide out of the backcountry just to comply with the law? Sadly most wont. If they want full compliance they need to clarify the exact pieces of the hide they need to seal not the entire thing.We should expect a drastic decline in reported harvests this spring. But I suppose that’s what they want..Do you really think there are that many bear hunters that dont want to keep the hides? I bet most do want them. And just like cougar, a taxidermist wont take an unsealed spring bear hide now. If you want to keep the hide, have it tanned, rugged or whatever, you will have to have it checked. I really dont think the percentage of guys hunting spring bear that dont want to keep the hides is very significant.The tooth thing is a bad comparison because a guy could always keep his hide, meat, skull and not send in the tooth, there was nothing to stop him from doing that. But now if you want to take your hide in to a taxidermist, youll have to have it sealed or the taxi wont take it.Absolutely and I’m one of them. Bear hunters tend to be guys who kill them on a regular basis and how many bear hides do you need? The guy who randomly kills a bear on a deer hunt once in his life is usually not the guy going on spring bear hunts every year. I have no interest in a bear hide at this point. Also I got my cougar rug last year. Further cougars would likely be for the meat and predator control same with bears. One bear rug one cougar rug one bear hide and one bear shoulder mount Is good for our house. My bear hide from last fall went into the garbage. This rule needs clarified to specific portions of the hide if there’s any realistic compliance.I fully agree. I bet 50% of successful bear hunters don’t want the hide. I don’t want another one unless it’s perfect and very unique. I just want the meat and skull. If I kill a bear in WA or ID, I’m packing out a 12”x12” section of hide with the proof of sex attached. They can seal that. That meets the legal requirement stated in the regs until they decide to update it to the complete hide. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I don't think that will work in Idaho . My understanding is salvage and check entire hide with sex attached and skull. That's the way I have always done it. Just fyiI posted a screenshot of the regs. Nowhere does it say the entire hide is required. I have a vm in with Idaho F&G and I am awaiting a call back. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk