Olympic National Park Goat Hunt Group Anyone?

[bearpaw]

I have to commend the Park Service for allowing hunters the opportunity to do this job, well done NPS! 

[stlusn30-06]

They were.   Maybe my reading comprehension was off, but the MINIMUM qualifications seemed very clear to me. After that came preferred experience. They assembled the pool of highly qualified based on those subjective preferences. That also seemed clear to me.  After that it was luck, due to sheer volume of applicants.

your stating my position.. minimum to qualify, not top 40 and lotto... based on excess info provided fact or fiction..

I'm not looking for an argument here, but my understanding from the email was that the 40 applications were the result of a random draw from all qualified applications (my assumption is that the pool of qualified applications was very, very large).  Those 40 pulled randomly were winnowed down to the final 21 under greater scrutiny from a collection of NPS and WDFW folks. 

I understand that I'm biased in this opinion, but it seems very much like Dr. Happe/NPS is doing absolutely everything reasonable people could ask of her/them in this situation.  The level of information developed for the lethal removal phase and the amount of coordination required between all phases of this operation is really astounding.  I've been thoroughly impressed.

"I evaluated all the applications, and pulled out those that were the most highly qualified.  From that pool I then did a random draw of 40 applications, asked some colleagues from the NPS and WDFW to review that more restricted pool, and selected 21 groups (yes – 3 more than I originally intended)."

most highly qualified and qualified are very different in meaning, again making the original submission standard criteria different than expectations …. quote directly from my email reply.. not going to argue, just stating facts here.. 

It seems one of the points being lost here is that this wasn't a hunt lottery. The NPS was taking applications to become (while being volunteers) employees. These teams will be covered by NPS insurance, employment laws, etc....It makes no sense to put lottery like stipulations on an employment opportunity. Of course they took the "most highly qualified". Any employer would. With the number of apps received, they did their best to make the opportunity as fair as possible for the teams that had the best applicants. Seems to me it was as fair as possible in the context of what it actually was.

[opdinkslayer]

I’m confused why anyone is upset about not getting selected? Do the math on your odds. About the same as drawing a tag in the WF&G draw. Congrats to those that will participate & everyone else move on.

[MtnMuley]

I wish they would have made each group show up for a one day competition on all aspects of this hunt. Although I'm sure there were A LOT of super qualified teams, I will never believe there were 21 better qualified (Every Aspect) for this hunt that ours with the criteria given. 

Not too upset that we won't be getting the chance to participate, but a bit surprised.

Hope this hunt gets the chance to operate fully for those selected without any unnecessary drama.

[Karl Blanchard]

I wish they would have made each group show up for a one day competition on all aspects of this hunt. Although I'm sure there were A LOT of super qualified teams, I will never believe there were 21 better qualified (Every Aspect) for this hunt that ours with the criteria given. 

Not too upset that we won't be getting the chance to participate, but a bit surprised.

Hope this hunt gets the chance to operate fully for those selected without any unnecessary drama.

and I'd want them to sell tickets to that comp so I could watch! That would be some entertainment 

[cougforester]

I'm pretty bummed. But on the other hand I'll have a lot more vacation time to use when I draw a quality elk tag in a couple weeks and won't have to fight the Olympics in early October. Would have been an awesome adventure, but it is what it is.

Wonder if a PDR can be done to get the apps of those selected...

[hunterednate]

I wish they would have made each group show up for a one day competition on all aspects of this hunt. Although I'm sure there were A LOT of super qualified teams, I will never believe there were 21 better qualified (Every Aspect) for this hunt that ours with the criteria given. 

Not too upset that we won't be getting the chance to participate, but a bit surprised.

Hope this hunt gets the chance to operate fully for those selected without any unnecessary drama.

and I'd want them to sell tickets to that comp so I could watch! That would be some entertainment 

I've thought they should have cashed in and made this a televised reality show series from the beginning. Like The Bachelor, but instead of getting a rose when you're selected, they hand you a .338 Lapua.

[Skillet]

Not to rub any salt in the wounds, but thought this was funny -

[opdinkslayer]

I wish they would have made each group show up for a one day competition on all aspects of this hunt. Although I'm sure there were A LOT of super qualified teams, I will never believe there were 21 better qualified (Every Aspect) for this hunt that ours with the criteria given. 

Not too upset that we won't be getting the chance to participate, but a bit surprised.

Hope this hunt gets the chance to operate fully for those selected without any unnecessary drama.

It’s the ONP is a federal agency, of course there will be unnecessary drama.

[MtnMuley]

I wish they would have made each group show up for a one day competition on all aspects of this hunt. Although I'm sure there were A LOT of super qualified teams, I will never believe there were 21 better qualified (Every Aspect) for this hunt that ours with the criteria given. 

Not too upset that we won't be getting the chance to participate, but a bit surprised.

Hope this hunt gets the chance to operate fully for those selected without any unnecessary drama.

and I'd want them to sell tickets to that comp so I could watch! That would be some entertainment 

We could always show up at the trailheads opening day with Inslee shirts and protest those goat killers

[blackveltbowhunter]

Applaud the effort. Coming from an industry with very competitive job market and high numbers of applicants I may have a skewed view.  But based on what some folks expected them to do, they should also expect to pay a hefty application fee along with it. This is a volunteer pilot program, not Google internship with a staff of support personnel and money to go with it. The only thing similar is the number of applicants

[TooTallMike]

I wish they would have made each group show up for a one day competition on all aspects of this hunt. Although I'm sure there were A LOT of super qualified teams, I will never believe there were 21 better qualified (Every Aspect) for this hunt that ours with the criteria given. 

Not too upset that we won't be getting the chance to participate, but a bit surprised.

Hope this hunt gets the chance to operate fully for those selected without any unnecessary drama.

and I'd want them to sell tickets to that comp so I could watch! That would be some entertainment 

We could always show up at the trailheads opening day with Inslee shirts and protest those goat killers

This is the way 😂😂

[Boss .300 winmag]

I wish they would have made each group show up for a one day competition on all aspects of this hunt. Although I'm sure there were A LOT of super qualified teams, I will never believe there were 21 better qualified (Every Aspect) for this hunt that ours with the criteria given. 

Not too upset that we won't be getting the chance to participate, but a bit surprised.

Hope this hunt gets the chance to operate fully for those selected without any unnecessary drama.

and I'd want them to sell tickets to that comp so I could watch! That would be some entertainment 

We could always show up at the trailheads opening day with Inslee shirts and protest those goat killers

Mines in the mail.😉

[HikerHunter]

Not selected and we had an excellent team. Bummed but I thought it was pretty clear from the get-go that it would take an excellent team and a little (or a lot) of luck because there was always a random selection as part of the selection process.

[stew pidasso]

Not selected, dang.