Cougar Changes

[dan11011]

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/apr/10/washington-wildlife-managers-approve-more-liberal-/

[Bango skank]

Another step in the right direction.   

[elksnout]

532 emails out of 555 were opposing increased predator management???
 WTH ??

Elksnout

[Bango skank]

532 emails out of 555 were opposing increased predator management???
 WTH ??

Elksnout

547 emails were opposing.  532 of those were a copy paste form letter.  Only 8 emails sent supporting increased cougar hunting according to wdfw.  Interesting, the poll i made about this proposal in snother thread had 54 members claiming they sent emails in support.  So what gives there?

[nwwanderer]

Sure helps with rebuilding confidence in WDFW

[buckfvr]

Im going to credit the commissioners for this improvement, not wdfw.

[PA BEN]

It would be nice if they didn't include problem cougars that were killed by WDFW to the quota.

[Bango skank]

It would be nice if they didn't include problem cougars that were killed by WDFW to the quota.

They dont.  If they did, 117, 113, and 101 would all have been closed january 1st, but theyre still open.  105 would have also been closed january 1st but didnt close until mid january.  The bottom pic shows quota / hunter kills / total mortality (total mortality including depredation kills) as of december 30th.  You can see several units that remained open with total mortality exceeded the quota, but those units stayed open because hunter kills alone were below harvest guidelinem

[TriggerMike]

Can Inslee still veto this like the last time or is it set in stone now?

[Bango skank]

Can Inslee still veto this like the last time or is it set in stone now?

I think its pretty much a done deal.  Inslee vetoed it last time well before it got this far, and his reasoning was no study behind it.  Weve had the predator prey study going a few years now since he pulled that crap.

[hunter399]

It would be nice if they didn't include problem cougars that were killed by WDFW to the quota.

They dont.  If they did, 117, 113, and 101 would all have been closed january 1st, but theyre still open.  105 would have also been closed january 1st but didnt close until mid january.  The bottom pic shows quota / hunter kills / total mortality (total mortality including depredation kills) as of december 30th.  You can see several units that remained open with total mortality exceeded the quota, but those units stayed open because hunter kills alone were below harvest guidelinem

First thing I already was waiting for Bango response,and yes he is correct agency removal does not count towards the quota.
There is a but coming if WDFW issue any kind of permits ,depredation permit,authorise permit hounds season,or allows the land owner to shoot and tag a emergency cat removal it will be counted towards quota .Bango and I had a long argument and he is right.So I went back and looked at the law a little better.

[buckfvr]

You don't have to have a tag/or tag a problem cat killed on your own property.  If you don't have a tag, they remove it, if you have a tag, you can opt to tag it and keep it and then it may or may not be counted against the quota.

[hunter399]

You don't have to have a tag/or tag a problem cat killed on your own property.  If you don't have a tag, they remove it, if you have a tag, you can opt to tag it and keep it and then it may or may not be counted against the quota.

I Agree you are right.
You do not need a tag to shoot a "problem cougar".
And again your right if you decide to put your tag on it.It may or may not count towards quota depending on the game warden.

[Hangfire]

Reported that Inslee overturned increased cougar Kill.

[hunter399]

Reported that Inslee overturned increased cougar Kill.

Got a link or something.

[Okanagan]

532 emails out of 555 were opposing increased predator management???
 WTH ??

Elksnout

547 emails were opposing.  532 of those were a copy paste form letter.  Only 8 emails sent supporting increased cougar hunting according to wdfw.  Interesting, the poll i made about this proposal in snother thread had 54 members claiming they sent emails in support.  So what gives there?

I sent an e-mail and I know that one of my cousins sent an e-mail, plus probably several other family members I did not verify.  So I know where two of the 8 positives came from and I believe that most HuntWA members who said that they sent the e-mail were not fibbing and really sent it.  So something is skewed re the process, either the communication mechanics or the counting.

[Bango skank]

Reported that Inslee overturned increased cougar Kill.

B.s.       source

[nwwanderer]

Big headline in 2015, maybe Rip Van Winkle

[ibuyre]

532 emails out of 555 were opposing increased predator management???
 WTH ??

Elksnout

547 emails were opposing.  532 of those were a copy paste form letter.  Only 8 emails sent supporting increased cougar hunting according to wdfw.  Interesting, the poll i made about this proposal in snother thread had 54 members claiming they sent emails in support.  So what gives there?

They are twisting the responses and lying to us.... I said we needed MORE hunting, and that I don't agree with what they are doing. We need a year around season, and the ability to buy more than one tag, if someone can ever figure out how to boot hunt cougars, they shouldn't be limited in there take. They probably lie and twist that into, doesn't support our predator protection so this is anti hunter.

[Special T]

Danger/predation Removal may not count twords the quotas but the cats go in a hole not some ones freezer, and I think the number in the NE is 3 to 1

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