2020 Archery Elk....fact or fiction

[trophyhunt]

You east siders just stay on your side, leave our otc bull/cow units alone!!!!                  Don't get you're panties in a bunch, I can just see a bunch of eastside archery guys heading west.

[HillHound]

My how the tides have turned

[jrebel]

You east siders just stay on your side, leave our otc bull/cow units alone!!!!                  Don't get you're panties in a bunch, I can just see a bunch of eastside archery guys heading west.

You are correct.....and that is one more problem with shutting everything down.  All the elk hunters will just congregate where they can hunt and create a problem in those GMU's. 

[bobcat]

Colockum and Yakima units archery hunters can still hunt, just not for cows. 

[ballpark]

Colockum and Yakima units archery hunters can still hunt, just not for cows. 

Spike ?

[bobcat]

Colockum and Yakima units archery hunters can still hunt, just not for cows. 

Spike ?

Yes. Same as it's been for muzzleloader and modern firearm seasons for many years now. It does suck, I agree. The other option would be no general season at all.

[jrebel]

Colockum and Yakima units archery hunters can still hunt, just not for cows. 

   

You mean go camping while finding the needle in a haystack and then trying to get within 50 yards of it.....Completely reasonable response.  Then you have to make sure it is a true spike before shooting (colockum)...lets see what those harvest stats produce.  0.002% success rate for non cow draw hunters.  For the lucky ones that draw the cow tags you are still likely to see 10-12% success rates.   

Now....who wants to post that more elk are killed and not recovered by archery guys....because rifle guys never shoot and don't find theirs.  This is part to the problem, hunters are divided and hunters think WDFW know are making these decisions for the betterment of the heard.....when in reality they refuse to protect the heard from predators in an attempt to please the environmentalists.  Facts don't lie.....kill predators and our numbers will come back to sustainable amounts.  FACT

[jrebel]

Colockum and Yakima units archery hunters can still hunt, just not for cows. 

Spike ?

Yes. Same as it's been for muzzleloader and modern firearm seasons for many years now. It does suck, I agree. The other option would be no general season at all.

Completely different......If I could shoot 200 yards with my bow, I almost be OK with a moratorium on cows....though this still does not fix the underlying problem. 

[D-Rock425]

I wish this was done instead of cutting the season in half a few years back. 

[bobcat]

Colockum and Yakima units archery hunters can still hunt, just not for cows. 

Spike ?

Yes. Same as it's been for muzzleloader and modern firearm seasons for many years now. It does suck, I agree. The other option would be no general season at all.

Completely different......If I could shoot 200 yards with my bow, I almost be OK with a moratorium on cows....though this still does not fix the underlying problem.

No it's not different. When populations are down, harvest needs to be decreased or eliminated, especially for cows. This should include those who choose to hunt with a bow. The WDFW is finally doing the right thing, in my opinion. Other than if it were me I'd also shut down the spike only general season.

[jrebel]

Colockum and Yakima units archery hunters can still hunt, just not for cows. 

Spike ?

Yes. Same as it's been for muzzleloader and modern firearm seasons for many years now. It does suck, I agree. The other option would be no general season at all.

Completely different......If I could shoot 200 yards with my bow, I almost be OK with a moratorium on cows....though this still does not fix the underlying problem.

No it's not different. When populations are down, harvest needs to be decreased or eliminated, especially for cows. This should include those who choose to hunt with a bow. The WDFW is finally doing the right thing, in my opinion. Other than if it were me I'd also shut down the spike only general season.

So your blindly buying into the fact that numbers are down......and you don't see the bigger problem being native american harvest, predator kill and general poaching.  Do you also agree with the introduction of wolves and grizzlies into our ecosystem?  Did you vote for and agree to eliminating hounds for cat and bear...or bait for bear?   Maybe you know WDFW is watching this site and your hoping for kickback and higher draw odds for buying into their crap.  For you to think archery hunters equally devastate cow herds....as compared to rifle or muzzleloader.... all you have to do is look at the stats a few years ago when they were giving out thousands of cow tags to rifle and muzzy.  You will find that clearly rifle and muzzleloader hunting has higher success rates and archery is a much more difficult way to harvest any animal.

 

[fishngamereaper]

Numbers aren't down, the state is getting lazy with survey's.

[vandeman17]

Colockum and Yakima units archery hunters can still hunt, just not for cows. 

Spike ?

Yes. Same as it's been for muzzleloader and modern firearm seasons for many years now. It does suck, I agree. The other option would be no general season at all.

Completely different......If I could shoot 200 yards with my bow, I almost be OK with a moratorium on cows....though this still does not fix the underlying problem.

No it's not different. When populations are down, harvest needs to be decreased or eliminated, especially for cows. This should include those who choose to hunt with a bow. The WDFW is finally doing the right thing, in my opinion. Other than if it were me I'd also shut down the spike only general season.

I think that many of us over here that spend a lot of time in the woods know that numbers aren't down. With that said, I do think the only way to get it back to where all weapon groups can have "their piece of the pie" is to knock down the predator numbers. I won't mention doing anything about native harvest because we all know nothing can be done there. 

[riflehunter]

Unfortunately with the native numbers and the predator numbers there is nothing any of us can do. As sportsmen we are such a low part of the population that our voice really doesn’t get heard. We are they state of Seattle and we will lose all votes. I do think cutting numbers down is smart I am a rifle hunter and I didn’t complain when they cut the tag numbers down for us because it is the only thing as sportsmen we can do to help things. We need to stick together and not blame it on other entities and figure out what we can do. I have 5 and 7 year old boys and it scares me to think they can’t enjoy and experience the things that I love in this world so I am willing to make sacrifices to help the future in any way I can


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[Special T]

Numbers aren't down, the state is getting lazy with survey's.

The only place I can think they are getting Lazy is the Yakima Training center. Suposidly there were 400 Colockum on the YTC but I've heard rumblings that there was at least double that number during the flight survey. Despite complaints the WDFW has not flown over the YTC down by the wind farm despite repeated requests from locals and sportsmen.

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