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Re: Got a response from the WDFW concerning CWP
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2009, 11:04:09 AM »
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Hikers, bikers, fishermen, berry pickers, horse and mule riders, everyone can have a loaded weapon (CONCEALED) and they do not need a CPL
A person who does not have a conceal carry permit cannot carry concealed any place with a loaded handgun except in their place of residence or work. So if the berry pickers are packing concealed without a permit they are breaking the law.

I see no reason that anyone with a carry permit should not be allowed to carry wherever they want, especially when hunting.
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Re: Got a response from the WDFW concerning CWP
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2009, 11:05:19 AM »
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Hikers, bikers, fishermen, berry pickers, horse and mule riders, everyone can have a loaded weapon (CONCEALED) and they do not need a CPL
A person who does not have a conceal carry permit cannot carry any place with a loaded handgun except in their place of residence or work.

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Re: Got a response from the WDFW concerning CWP
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2009, 11:07:43 AM »
Didn't think so.  I'm going to quite arguing with you or anyone else on this, if this passes the common sense test for you then so be it.  It doesn't for me, but that is my problem I guess.  I carried a sidearm for 21 years as a police officer and this "amendment" is plain silly IMO.  I'll have to live with the fact that other sportsmen don't see it as I do, happens all the time, I guess I see some things differently.  I do think it's funny that your not a bowhunter or a muzzleloader and your lecturing me on how this is fair.
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Re: Got a response from the WDFW concerning CWP
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2009, 11:09:15 AM »
I wonder how long it will be before the state gets rid of the exceptions to the concealed carry laws that allow legal outdoor recreationists to carry concealed. :dunno:
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Re: Got a response from the WDFW concerning CWP
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2009, 11:09:54 AM »
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Hikers, bikers, fishermen, berry pickers, horse and mule riders, everyone can have a loaded weapon (CONCEALED) and they do not need a CPL
A person who does not have a conceal carry permit cannot carry concealed any place with a loaded handgun except in their place of residence or work. So if the berry pickers are packing concealed without a permit they are breaking the law.

I see no reason that anyone with a carry permit should not be allowed to carry wherever they want, especially when hunting.

Mookie your completely wrong on that my friend.  If you are going to or from or are engaged in a outdoor activity, i.e. berry picker, fisherman, etc... you are in fact allowed to have a concealed weapon without a CPL.
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Re: Got a response from the WDFW concerning CWP
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2009, 11:11:53 AM »
the response to this law by guys on this site has always confused me to a degree. i'm not here to debate anything, don't want to, and won't...but i think the no handgun law during archery season is there to stop folks from cheating and using their pistol to kill an animal, plain and simple. i'd like to think most of the people on this MB wouldn't do that, but there are people in this state and in this world that will. i never thought it was a bad law. i did wonder how they can enforce it to a guy with a cpl, but at the same time, feel i agree with JoshT's statement about you restricting yourself by purchasing the tag. i think the cwp ruling is to eliminate the question mark re: the right to carry law...thats all. i have no problem with it.
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Re: Got a response from the WDFW concerning CWP
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2009, 11:12:05 AM »
No I just read the new regs. this morning and once again WDFW got into my pockets. I have a phone call into a couple of people at the department that I know, waiting for a response. I'm pretty sure I know why, once again a few of the bad ones ruining it for all!!!!!  

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Re: Got a response from the WDFW concerning CWP
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2009, 11:12:46 AM »
It's fair to CPL holders, it wasn't before... the MZ and Archery guys have always agreed to the restrictions placed upon them.

What if I'm engaged in a legal outdoor activity in downtown Seattle... like biking, or throwing crab pots off the pier, or jogging? Do I still have that right? I bet that's a pretty slippery slope... one I'd rather not try out. Better to have the CPL and not need it... than need it and not have it!
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Re: Got a response from the WDFW concerning CWP
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2009, 11:15:44 AM »
No I just read the new regs. this morning and once again WDFW got into my pockets. I have a phone call into a couple of people at the department that I know, waiting for a response. I'm pretty sure I know why, once again a few of the bad ones ruining it for all!!!!!  

Your gonna love this, The Department deemed coyote hunting with dogs as socially unacceptable.  Their exact words. 
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Re: Got a response from the WDFW concerning CWP
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2009, 11:16:07 AM »
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Hikers, bikers, fishermen, berry pickers, horse and mule riders, everyone can have a loaded weapon (CONCEALED) and they do not need a CPL
A person who does not have a conceal carry permit cannot carry any place with a loaded handgun except in their place of residence or work.

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A person shall not carry a pistol concealed on his person without a license to carry a concealed weapon. A person may carry concealed without a license in his place of abode or fixed place of business.
A person at least 18 years old who is in possession of an unloaded pistol shall not leave it in a vehicle unless the unloaded pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless he has a license to carry a concealed weapon and the pistol is on his person, or the person with the concealed carrying license is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or the person with the concealed carrying license is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

The prohibition against carrying concealed without a license does not apply to law enforcement personnel and prison or jail wardens or their deputies; military personnel when on duty; regularly enrolled members of any organization authorized to purchase or receive pistols from the U.S. and regularly enrolled members of target shooting or collectors’ clubs and any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity, provided such persons are at or going to or from such activities; gun dealers in the usual or ordinary course of their business; carrying unloaded and in a closed opaque case or secure wrapper; and qualified retired law enforcement officers.

Interesting. News to me. Learn something every day. Then why do we need a permit in the state parks? If that is the case, they why even bother concealing? Open carry is perfectly legal, or is it not legal in areas for hunting during hunting season.

I also appreciate the telling me how WRONG I was and not saying why I was WRONG.
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Re: Got a response from the WDFW concerning CWP
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2009, 11:41:24 AM »
"I also appreciate the telling me how WRONG I was and not saying why I was WRONG." 

I was going to post the link, but you beat me to it.  :chuckle:
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Re: Got a response from the WDFW concerning CWP
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2009, 11:50:26 AM »
I think its a step in the right direction, so if I read it right for archery hunting, I can carry it concealed or on my hip , my choice ?
Or must it be concealed ?
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Re: Got a response from the WDFW concerning CWP
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2009, 11:56:33 AM »
Your choice.
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Re: Got a response from the WDFW concerning CWP
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2009, 12:02:22 PM »
Thanks
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Re: Got a response from the WDFW concerning CWP
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2009, 12:06:25 PM »
Honestly, if you are a leader of the bowhunting community and you pushed for this because YOU believe the average bowhunter cannot be trusted to be lawful, you should resign immediately, you don't deserve to be a voice for the bowhunting community! IMO!!





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