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On April 19th, at a protest over the "stay at home" order in Washington, Washington State Senator Robert Sutherland (Snohomish County, WA) made an outrageous statement to the crowd. Referring to the WA Dept. of Fish and Wildlife's decision to temporarily close hunting and fishing, Representative Sutherland called for the protesters to revolt against WDFW officers by saying; if the state sends its “goons with guns, we will defend ourselves.” “Governor, you send men with guns after us when we go fishing, we’ll see what a revolution looks like,” Sutherland said.https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-coronavirus-protest-inslee-stay-at-home?fbclid=IwAR1RLDW6SejczsOlBn6a3As_CgFJoGH7-5FjXUzjUzI0tZuIWU_q_d06VcAIn In later interviews, Sutherland tried to walk back his comments by saying he meant "A revolution of love", showing this coward doesn't even have the fortitude to stand by his statements.No matter your stance on opening the state back up, please show your support for WDFW officers by contacting the representative and voicing your opinion:Representative Robert Sutherland405 John L. O'Brien BuildingP.O. Box 40600Olympia, WA 98504-0600robert.sutherland@leg.wa.gov
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Quote from: ucwarden on April 25, 2020, 09:34:55 AMOn April 19th, at a protest over the "stay at home" order in Washington, Washington State Senator Robert Sutherland (Snohomish County, WA) made an outrageous statement to the crowd. Referring to the WA Dept. of Fish and Wildlife's decision to temporarily close hunting and fishing, Representative Sutherland called for the protesters to revolt against WDFW officers by saying; if the state sends its “goons with guns, we will defend ourselves.” “Governor, you send men with guns after us when we go fishing, we’ll see what a revolution looks like,” Sutherland said.https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-coronavirus-protest-inslee-stay-at-home?fbclid=IwAR1RLDW6SejczsOlBn6a3As_CgFJoGH7-5FjXUzjUzI0tZuIWU_q_d06VcAIn In later interviews, Sutherland tried to walk back his comments by saying he meant "A revolution of love", showing this coward doesn't even have the fortitude to stand by his statements.No matter your stance on opening the state back up, please show your support for WDFW officers by contacting the representative and voicing your opinion:Representative Robert Sutherland405 John L. O'Brien BuildingP.O. Box 40600Olympia, WA 98504-0600robert.sutherland@leg.wa.govRegardless of whether you agree or disagree with what was said....(I disagree fundamentally) I think the point he was trying to make is...people are tired of the bullpoop. WDFW can influence the governors decision....yet they don't.You also have to remember there are quite a few of us on here that have negative interactions with WDFW officers while doing everything right. They have a made their bed and now they don't like laying in it....maybe they will learn to be a little nicer in the future and garner the trust of sportsmen and women. I don't agree with what was said....but I will not support a dept. that has continually made bad decisions. Until the wardens start representing themselves as advocates for the sport and sportsmen and women.....they will not get my support. I was guilty until proven innocent....and even when I proved my innocence (in about 2 minutes on the phone), I never got a "I'm Sorry." Two years later I meet the guy face to face at a local function and he acts like my best friend.....get real buddy. I hope he learned a lesson. I have a clean record in all aspects of my life and he treated me like a criminal, abused his perceived power when interacting with a minor (my daughter) and admitted to having me pegged as guilty before knowing the facts. People are tired of this kind of shat, so it is no wonder the WDFW is catching so much flack durring this shutdown. jrebel:I respect everyone's right to express their opinions, as you just did, however there is simply no excuse or explanation for calling on sportsmen to resist the lawful duties of law enforcement officers. Also, for a state representative to call law enforcement officers "goons" is totally unprofessional and degrading. Your response is one I heard all of my career; "You guys are all #$%#" or "Every game warden I ever met was rude and was on a power trip" etc. etc. By making comments like that you are lumping all of us into one category. Because you don't agree with something WDFW does, it's all the employees fault. Game Wardens are just like everyone else; there are good ones and bad ones, positive ones and negative ones, we are all just people. Whatever you do for a living, I am pretty sure that if I lumped you in with everyone else who has a similar profession, you would object, so what makes you think it's fair to judge an entire group based on your experience with one individual?As for F&W officers not acting as advocates for "the sport the sportsmen and women", that too is a ridiculous statement. How do you know what F&W officers have or have not done when it comes to being advocates for sportsmen? Additionally, remember that because you don't see something change the way you want it to, does not mean WDFW employees weren't trying as hard as they could behind the scenes. In the past, I have certainly had my share of differences with the administration of my former agency. I stood up for you, your fellow sportsmen, and the fine officers of WDFW to the point that it did serious damage to my career (ask around). I am an avid hunter and fisherman, and so is my wife, so for someone to imply I haven't done enough for sportsmen kinda chaps my hide (yes I know you didn't fault me directly). In my 34-years as a WA game warden, I have been hospitalized more than once as a result of being assaulted by wanted felons, and I lost a friend and colleague to a poacher's bullet. So, other than posting negative comments on here, what have you done to further your cause? When did you last attend a WDFW commission meeting? When was the last time you expressed your opinions to WDFW in written form?In closing jrebel, I look forward to hearing from you in the future and do appreciate your at least paying attention to this post, but please don't lump us all together. The men and women who serve as WDFW enforcement officers are some of the finest people I have ever had the honor to meet.Someday, if you want to talk in person, give me a call: Todd Vandivert- (509) 202-3150Stay safe
It is ALWAYS a bad idea to mess with someone with a badge and gun. That is a good way to die a martyr and accomplish nothing. If you got brass balls go fish doing everything else legal then fight the ticket in court. That would do more for everyone.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk
Yup. Representative Robert Sutherland crossed the line a bit but quickly walked it back. The non-violent protest was about the Governor and the WDFW's failures. Rather than waste your time contacting Representative Robert Sutherland for someone's agenda, do something more constructive and contact Jay, everyone in the WA Congress and the top of the WDFW and tell them to open hunting and fishing. No more lame excuses. The science is out. Sunlight kills the virus and you don't have to drink bleach for the cure.
Quote from: Pegasus on April 25, 2020, 10:48:58 AMYup. Representative Robert Sutherland crossed the line a bit but quickly walked it back. The non-violent protest was about the Governor and the WDFW's failures. Rather than waste your time contacting Representative Robert Sutherland for someone's agenda, do something more constructive and contact Jay, everyone in the WA Congress and the top of the WDFW and tell them to open hunting and fishing. No more lame excuses. The science is out. Sunlight kills the virus and you don't have to drink bleach for the cure."Crossed the line a bit.....". I would call that a GROSS UNDERSTATEMENT !! Sutherland was advocating forcefully resisting law enforcement officers who were doing their job.
I will also adress the public safety committee with a letter. I was literally speechless at his comments.
