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Re: WA Rep. Robert Sutherland's comments about fish and wildlife officers
« Reply #90 on: April 26, 2020, 02:07:41 PM »
I have received PMs from two different people, however one of them has a full inbox, so would you please check it and make it so you can receive messages as well as sending them?
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Re: WA Rep. Robert Sutherland's comments about fish and wildlife officers
« Reply #91 on: April 26, 2020, 02:11:30 PM »
“ He posted public information about a publicly elected official. That's WAY different than posting home address and cell phone number is a random WDFW employee”

It’s not. WDFW employees are also public officials. You won’t post their home address because that’s not public information. Their name, position, work email/phone/address are. You can look up anyone who was paid off of public funds. As an example.

http://Http://fiscal.wa.gov/salaries.aspx

I generally support LEOs and have a lot of friends who went that route after the service. My biggest complaint would be how the good LEOs don’t police the bad LEOs. Good guys know who bad guys or people on power trips are. This seems to be a far bigger problem than the actual number of bad LEOs. Too many people being “loyal” for bad LEOs just because they’re a brother in blue. No one wants to end up like Serpico (the actual guy not the movie). You’d be amazed what people are willing to overlook because they may personally like someone or they’re just biding their time to collect a check, and that’s true across all industries. Let alone one where you might not get backup when you need it for “crossing the thin blue line”.

All of that said, I haven’t had any bad interactions with anyone from WDFW enforcement, or any other LEO, and wouldn’t seriously advocate violence against them, or any one else, for any reason. A lot of the treatment you’d get from LEOs will stem directly from how at ease you can make them during any interaction.

I already posted that but it was twisted by one of the WDFW reps here. What if we had posted Bigtex's .gov address? Oh my. But we did not and we won't post an individual's email, or phone. They have tried to twist everything that I have posted to support their agenda. They are also twisting another's words here. They need to get off their bully pulpit and stop trying to rally this public forum to do their bidding to harass an individual they want as their victim.

Only one post here so far has agreed with Sutherland. The rest, including me, have disavowed his words which he already had retracted. They are doing nothing to to enhance the reputation of the WDFW which is in dire need of repair. Instead they continue that outsiders are not part of the "Club" that can really know what is going on at the WDFW. We have to only believe them. One complains that we are posting anonymous here. What an amazing revelation. Funny after not posting here for ages he scurries to this anonymous board to get anonymous posters to do his bidding and harass an individual when he should be harassing Jay and the top of the WDFW to open hunting and fishing. The attitude that you would not be so tuff if I knew who you are is the attitude that gives law enforcement a bad name. It's an anonymous  board, go complain elsewhere.
There are no WDFW rep’s here.

I’m curious, Pegasus. Are you good with the other thread promoting emailing all of our reps and senators asking for opening of hunting and fishing? You posted in that thread. You know it’s there. Nothing bad said about it though. And their .gov emails are posted there.
Asking for a friend.

I have no problem with the other thread. I do have a problem with what the OP here was doing. He was trying to torch an individual by securing emails from others here. I am pretty sure you can see the difference. It is a personal attack on Sutherland. It is not a request to please help us open fishing and hunting. Unfortunately the OP does not handle criticism very well. He must have been great to run into in the field. It's his way or the highway here or he will twist your posts and try to belittle the opposition. He just can't handle being called out on it. He does not need to try to get his opposition stopped from posting here.

You do realize there is more going on in the world than opening hunting and fishing right? Or is that the only thing we should email people about?

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Ah geez Bigtex you do realize that the thread that Jackelope asked about is....wait for it........a thread about hunting and fishing? Here is what the OP of that thread in his first post said:

"but it is important for everyone to see and hopefully email their representatives.  Please leave this in a place for all to see.  If you send an email feel free to respond with "e-mail sent" but don't start a bashing thread that gets this moved to a locked status or forum where not everyone can see it.  Feel free to post responses from your reps if you feel it appropriate. It will be interesting to see who back our hunting and fishing heritage and who doesn't.  Cheers"

Get it BigTex? But thanks for trying to diminish my answer to Jackalope's question.
“ He posted public information about a publicly elected official. That's WAY different than posting home address and cell phone number is a random WDFW employee”

It’s not. WDFW employees are also public officials. You won’t post their home address because that’s not public information. Their name, position, work email/phone/address are. You can look up anyone who was paid off of public funds. As an example.

http://Http://fiscal.wa.gov/salaries.aspx

I generally support LEOs and have a lot of friends who went that route after the service. My biggest complaint would be how the good LEOs don’t police the bad LEOs. Good guys know who bad guys or people on power trips are. This seems to be a far bigger problem than the actual number of bad LEOs. Too many people being “loyal” for bad LEOs just because they’re a brother in blue. No one wants to end up like Serpico (the actual guy not the movie). You’d be amazed what people are willing to overlook because they may personally like someone or they’re just biding their time to collect a check, and that’s true across all industries. Let alone one where you might not get backup when you need it for “crossing the thin blue line”.

All of that said, I haven’t had any bad interactions with anyone from WDFW enforcement, or any other LEO, and wouldn’t seriously advocate violence against them, or any one else, for any reason. A lot of the treatment you’d get from LEOs will stem directly from how at ease you can make them during any interaction.

I already posted that but it was twisted by one of the WDFW reps here. What if we had posted Bigtex's .gov address? Oh my. But we did not and we won't post an individual's email, or phone. They have tried to twist everything that I have posted to support their agenda. They are also twisting another's words here. They need to get off their bully pulpit and stop trying to rally this public forum to do their bidding to harass an individual they want as their victim.

Only one post here so far has agreed with Sutherland. The rest, including me, have disavowed his words which he already had retracted. They are doing nothing to to enhance the reputation of the WDFW which is in dire need of repair. Instead they continue that outsiders are not part of the "Club" that can really know what is going on at the WDFW. We have to only believe them. One complains that we are posting anonymous here. What an amazing revelation. Funny after not posting here for ages he scurries to this anonymous board to get anonymous posters to do his bidding and harass an individual when he should be harassing Jay and the top of the WDFW to open hunting and fishing. The attitude that you would not be so tuff if I knew who you are is the attitude that gives law enforcement a bad name. It's an anonymous  board, go complain elsewhere.
There are no WDFW rep’s here.

I’m curious, Pegasus. Are you good with the other thread promoting emailing all of our reps and senators asking for opening of hunting and fishing? You posted in that thread. You know it’s there. Nothing bad said about it though. And their .gov emails are posted there.
Asking for a friend.

I have no problem with the other thread. I do have a problem with what the OP here was doing. He was trying to torch an individual by securing emails from others here. I am pretty sure you can see the difference. It is a personal attack on Sutherland. It is not a request to please help us open fishing and hunting. Unfortunately the OP does not handle criticism very well. He must have been great to run into in the field. It's his way or the highway here or he will twist your posts and try to belittle the opposition. He just can't handle being called out on it. He does not need to try to get his opposition stopped from posting here.
Ah geez Pegasus. You also stated "it is a personal attack on Sutherland. It is not a request to please help us open hunting and fishing."

You're right, UC's request has nothing to do with opening hunting and fishing, and guess what, that's okay because we live in a world where we can do more than tackle one topic at a time and not just be stuck on opening hunting/fishing 24/7.

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Ah geez BigTex now you are golng to pretend you where responding to an older post when you clearly quoted my most recent? How immature. And you thought we would not catch you in the deception.

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Re: WA Rep. Robert Sutherland's comments about fish and wildlife officers
« Reply #92 on: April 26, 2020, 02:17:45 PM »


“ He posted public information about a publicly elected official. That's WAY different than posting home address and cell phone number is a random WDFW employee”

It’s not. WDFW employees are also public officials. You won’t post their home address because that’s not public information. Their name, position, work email/phone/address are. You can look up anyone who was paid off of public funds. As an example.

http://Http://fiscal.wa.gov/salaries.aspx

I generally support LEOs and have a lot of friends who went that route after the service. My biggest complaint would be how the good LEOs don’t police the bad LEOs. Good guys know who bad guys or people on power trips are. This seems to be a far bigger problem than the actual number of bad LEOs. Too many people being “loyal” for bad LEOs just because they’re a brother in blue. No one wants to end up like Serpico (the actual guy not the movie). You’d be amazed what people are willing to overlook because they may personally like someone or they’re just biding their time to collect a check, and that’s true across all industries. Let alone one where you might not get backup when you need it for “crossing the thin blue line”.

All of that said, I haven’t had any bad interactions with anyone from WDFW enforcement, or any other LEO, and wouldn’t seriously advocate violence against them, or any one else, for any reason. A lot of the treatment you’d get from LEOs will stem directly from how at ease you can make them during any interaction.

I already posted that but it was twisted by one of the WDFW reps here. What if we had posted Bigtex's .gov address? Oh my. But we did not and we won't post an individual's email, or phone. They have tried to twist everything that I have posted to support their agenda. They are also twisting another's words here. They need to get off their bully pulpit and stop trying to rally this public forum to do their bidding to harass an individual they want as their victim.

Only one post here so far has agreed with Sutherland. The rest, including me, have disavowed his words which he already had retracted. They are doing nothing to to enhance the reputation of the WDFW which is in dire need of repair. Instead they continue that outsiders are not part of the "Club" that can really know what is going on at the WDFW. We have to only believe them. One complains that we are posting anonymous here. What an amazing revelation. Funny after not posting here for ages he scurries to this anonymous board to get anonymous posters to do his bidding and harass an individual when he should be harassing Jay and the top of the WDFW to open hunting and fishing. The attitude that you would not be so tuff if I knew who you are is the attitude that gives law enforcement a bad name. It's an anonymous  board, go complain elsewhere.
There are no WDFW rep’s here.

I’m curious, Pegasus. Are you good with the other thread promoting emailing all of our reps and senators asking for opening of hunting and fishing? You posted in that thread. You know it’s there. Nothing bad said about it though. And their .gov emails are posted there.
Asking for a friend.

I have no problem with the other thread. I do have a problem with what the OP here was doing. He was trying to torch an individual by securing emails from others here. I am pretty sure you can see the difference. It is a personal attack on Sutherland. It is not a request to please help us open fishing and hunting. Unfortunately the OP does not handle criticism very well. He must have been great to run into in the field. It's his way or the highway here or he will twist your posts and try to belittle the opposition. He just can't handle being called out on it. He does not need to try to get his opposition stopped from posting here.

You do realize there is more going on in the world than opening hunting and fishing right? Or is that the only thing we should email people about?

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Ah geez Bigtex you do realize that the thread that Jackelope asked about is....wait for it........a thread about hunting and fishing? Here is what the OP of that thread in his first post said:

"but it is important for everyone to see and hopefully email their representatives.  Please leave this in a place for all to see.  If you send an email feel free to respond with "e-mail sent" but don't start a bashing thread that gets this moved to a locked status or forum where not everyone can see it.  Feel free to post responses from your reps if you feel it appropriate. It will be interesting to see who back our hunting and fishing heritage and who doesn't.  Cheers"

Get it BigTex? But thanks for trying to diminish my answer to Jackalope's question.
“ He posted public information about a publicly elected official. That's WAY different than posting home address and cell phone number is a random WDFW employee”

It’s not. WDFW employees are also public officials. You won’t post their home address because that’s not public information. Their name, position, work email/phone/address are. You can look up anyone who was paid off of public funds. As an example.

http://Http://fiscal.wa.gov/salaries.aspx

I generally support LEOs and have a lot of friends who went that route after the service. My biggest complaint would be how the good LEOs don’t police the bad LEOs. Good guys know who bad guys or people on power trips are. This seems to be a far bigger problem than the actual number of bad LEOs. Too many people being “loyal” for bad LEOs just because they’re a brother in blue. No one wants to end up like Serpico (the actual guy not the movie). You’d be amazed what people are willing to overlook because they may personally like someone or they’re just biding their time to collect a check, and that’s true across all industries. Let alone one where you might not get backup when you need it for “crossing the thin blue line”.

All of that said, I haven’t had any bad interactions with anyone from WDFW enforcement, or any other LEO, and wouldn’t seriously advocate violence against them, or any one else, for any reason. A lot of the treatment you’d get from LEOs will stem directly from how at ease you can make them during any interaction.

I already posted that but it was twisted by one of the WDFW reps here. What if we had posted Bigtex's .gov address? Oh my. But we did not and we won't post an individual's email, or phone. They have tried to twist everything that I have posted to support their agenda. They are also twisting another's words here. They need to get off their bully pulpit and stop trying to rally this public forum to do their bidding to harass an individual they want as their victim.

Only one post here so far has agreed with Sutherland. The rest, including me, have disavowed his words which he already had retracted. They are doing nothing to to enhance the reputation of the WDFW which is in dire need of repair. Instead they continue that outsiders are not part of the "Club" that can really know what is going on at the WDFW. We have to only believe them. One complains that we are posting anonymous here. What an amazing revelation. Funny after not posting here for ages he scurries to this anonymous board to get anonymous posters to do his bidding and harass an individual when he should be harassing Jay and the top of the WDFW to open hunting and fishing. The attitude that you would not be so tuff if I knew who you are is the attitude that gives law enforcement a bad name. It's an anonymous  board, go complain elsewhere.
There are no WDFW rep’s here.

I’m curious, Pegasus. Are you good with the other thread promoting emailing all of our reps and senators asking for opening of hunting and fishing? You posted in that thread. You know it’s there. Nothing bad said about it though. And their .gov emails are posted there.
Asking for a friend.

I have no problem with the other thread. I do have a problem with what the OP here was doing. He was trying to torch an individual by securing emails from others here. I am pretty sure you can see the difference. It is a personal attack on Sutherland. It is not a request to please help us open fishing and hunting. Unfortunately the OP does not handle criticism very well. He must have been great to run into in the field. It's his way or the highway here or he will twist your posts and try to belittle the opposition. He just can't handle being called out on it. He does not need to try to get his opposition stopped from posting here.
Ah geez Pegasus. You also stated "it is a personal attack on Sutherland. It is not a request to please help us open hunting and fishing."

You're right, UC's request has nothing to do with opening hunting and fishing, and guess what, that's okay because we live in a world where we can do more than tackle one topic at a time and not just be stuck on opening hunting/fishing 24/7.

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Ah geez BigTex now you are golng to pretend you where responding to an older post when you clearly quoted my most recent? How immature. And you thought we would not catch you in the deception.
I did not mean to quote the "I have no problem with the other thread" post. I am doing all of this on my phone right now.

My point continues to be that you continue to deflect on the Sutherland topic and say we should only be worried about opening hunting and fishing.  You've mentioned it several times.

I guess who cares about legislators bashing game wardens, I want to go fishing!

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Re: WA Rep. Robert Sutherland's comments about fish and wildlife officers
« Reply #93 on: April 26, 2020, 02:29:15 PM »


“ He posted public information about a publicly elected official. That's WAY different than posting home address and cell phone number is a random WDFW employee”

It’s not. WDFW employees are also public officials. You won’t post their home address because that’s not public information. Their name, position, work email/phone/address are. You can look up anyone who was paid off of public funds. As an example.

http://Http://fiscal.wa.gov/salaries.aspx

I generally support LEOs and have a lot of friends who went that route after the service. My biggest complaint would be how the good LEOs don’t police the bad LEOs. Good guys know who bad guys or people on power trips are. This seems to be a far bigger problem than the actual number of bad LEOs. Too many people being “loyal” for bad LEOs just because they’re a brother in blue. No one wants to end up like Serpico (the actual guy not the movie). You’d be amazed what people are willing to overlook because they may personally like someone or they’re just biding their time to collect a check, and that’s true across all industries. Let alone one where you might not get backup when you need it for “crossing the thin blue line”.

All of that said, I haven’t had any bad interactions with anyone from WDFW enforcement, or any other LEO, and wouldn’t seriously advocate violence against them, or any one else, for any reason. A lot of the treatment you’d get from LEOs will stem directly from how at ease you can make them during any interaction.

I already posted that but it was twisted by one of the WDFW reps here. What if we had posted Bigtex's .gov address? Oh my. But we did not and we won't post an individual's email, or phone. They have tried to twist everything that I have posted to support their agenda. They are also twisting another's words here. They need to get off their bully pulpit and stop trying to rally this public forum to do their bidding to harass an individual they want as their victim.

Only one post here so far has agreed with Sutherland. The rest, including me, have disavowed his words which he already had retracted. They are doing nothing to to enhance the reputation of the WDFW which is in dire need of repair. Instead they continue that outsiders are not part of the "Club" that can really know what is going on at the WDFW. We have to only believe them. One complains that we are posting anonymous here. What an amazing revelation. Funny after not posting here for ages he scurries to this anonymous board to get anonymous posters to do his bidding and harass an individual when he should be harassing Jay and the top of the WDFW to open hunting and fishing. The attitude that you would not be so tuff if I knew who you are is the attitude that gives law enforcement a bad name. It's an anonymous  board, go complain elsewhere.
There are no WDFW rep’s here.

I’m curious, Pegasus. Are you good with the other thread promoting emailing all of our reps and senators asking for opening of hunting and fishing? You posted in that thread. You know it’s there. Nothing bad said about it though. And their .gov emails are posted there.
Asking for a friend.

I have no problem with the other thread. I do have a problem with what the OP here was doing. He was trying to torch an individual by securing emails from others here. I am pretty sure you can see the difference. It is a personal attack on Sutherland. It is not a request to please help us open fishing and hunting. Unfortunately the OP does not handle criticism very well. He must have been great to run into in the field. It's his way or the highway here or he will twist your posts and try to belittle the opposition. He just can't handle being called out on it. He does not need to try to get his opposition stopped from posting here.

You do realize there is more going on in the world than opening hunting and fishing right? Or is that the only thing we should email people about?

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Ah geez Bigtex you do realize that the thread that Jackelope asked about is....wait for it........a thread about hunting and fishing? Here is what the OP of that thread in his first post said:

"but it is important for everyone to see and hopefully email their representatives.  Please leave this in a place for all to see.  If you send an email feel free to respond with "e-mail sent" but don't start a bashing thread that gets this moved to a locked status or forum where not everyone can see it.  Feel free to post responses from your reps if you feel it appropriate. It will be interesting to see who back our hunting and fishing heritage and who doesn't.  Cheers"

Get it BigTex? But thanks for trying to diminish my answer to Jackalope's question.
“ He posted public information about a publicly elected official. That's WAY different than posting home address and cell phone number is a random WDFW employee”

It’s not. WDFW employees are also public officials. You won’t post their home address because that’s not public information. Their name, position, work email/phone/address are. You can look up anyone who was paid off of public funds. As an example.

http://Http://fiscal.wa.gov/salaries.aspx

I generally support LEOs and have a lot of friends who went that route after the service. My biggest complaint would be how the good LEOs don’t police the bad LEOs. Good guys know who bad guys or people on power trips are. This seems to be a far bigger problem than the actual number of bad LEOs. Too many people being “loyal” for bad LEOs just because they’re a brother in blue. No one wants to end up like Serpico (the actual guy not the movie). You’d be amazed what people are willing to overlook because they may personally like someone or they’re just biding their time to collect a check, and that’s true across all industries. Let alone one where you might not get backup when you need it for “crossing the thin blue line”.

All of that said, I haven’t had any bad interactions with anyone from WDFW enforcement, or any other LEO, and wouldn’t seriously advocate violence against them, or any one else, for any reason. A lot of the treatment you’d get from LEOs will stem directly from how at ease you can make them during any interaction.

I already posted that but it was twisted by one of the WDFW reps here. What if we had posted Bigtex's .gov address? Oh my. But we did not and we won't post an individual's email, or phone. They have tried to twist everything that I have posted to support their agenda. They are also twisting another's words here. They need to get off their bully pulpit and stop trying to rally this public forum to do their bidding to harass an individual they want as their victim.

Only one post here so far has agreed with Sutherland. The rest, including me, have disavowed his words which he already had retracted. They are doing nothing to to enhance the reputation of the WDFW which is in dire need of repair. Instead they continue that outsiders are not part of the "Club" that can really know what is going on at the WDFW. We have to only believe them. One complains that we are posting anonymous here. What an amazing revelation. Funny after not posting here for ages he scurries to this anonymous board to get anonymous posters to do his bidding and harass an individual when he should be harassing Jay and the top of the WDFW to open hunting and fishing. The attitude that you would not be so tuff if I knew who you are is the attitude that gives law enforcement a bad name. It's an anonymous  board, go complain elsewhere.
There are no WDFW rep’s here.

I’m curious, Pegasus. Are you good with the other thread promoting emailing all of our reps and senators asking for opening of hunting and fishing? You posted in that thread. You know it’s there. Nothing bad said about it though. And their .gov emails are posted there.
Asking for a friend.

I have no problem with the other thread. I do have a problem with what the OP here was doing. He was trying to torch an individual by securing emails from others here. I am pretty sure you can see the difference. It is a personal attack on Sutherland. It is not a request to please help us open fishing and hunting. Unfortunately the OP does not handle criticism very well. He must have been great to run into in the field. It's his way or the highway here or he will twist your posts and try to belittle the opposition. He just can't handle being called out on it. He does not need to try to get his opposition stopped from posting here.
Ah geez Pegasus. You also stated "it is a personal attack on Sutherland. It is not a request to please help us open hunting and fishing."

You're right, UC's request has nothing to do with opening hunting and fishing, and guess what, that's okay because we live in a world where we can do more than tackle one topic at a time and not just be stuck on opening hunting/fishing 24/7.

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Ah geez BigTex now you are golng to pretend you where responding to an older post when you clearly quoted my most recent? How immature. And you thought we would not catch you in the deception.
I did not mean to quote the "I have no problem with the other thread" post. I am doing all of this on my phone right now.

My point continues to be that you continue to deflect on the Sutherland topic and say we should only be worried about opening hunting and fishing.  You've mentioned it several times.

I guess who cares about legislators bashing game wardens, I want to go fishing!

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My point was/is that your time could be better spent than trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, twist others posts, trying to belittle them, etc. Instead you have senselessly attacked any one that dared question the OP's original post. Hopefully since you noted you are having trouble posting with your phone you are not driving and posting.

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Re: WA Rep. Robert Sutherland's comments about fish and wildlife officers
« Reply #94 on: April 26, 2020, 02:30:48 PM »
These one page quotes are CRAZY.

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Re: WA Rep. Robert Sutherland's comments about fish and wildlife officers
« Reply #95 on: April 26, 2020, 02:49:34 PM »

My point was/is that your time could be better spent than trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, twist others posts, trying to belittle them, etc. Instead you have senselessly attacked any one that dared question the OP's original post. Hopefully since you noted you are having trouble posting with your phone you are not driving and posting.

Pegasus........Your "mountain out of a molehill" line is getting a little stale.  The original post was directed at a publicly elected official.  Any, repeat any, publicly elected official is fair game as far as criticism from the electorate if he screws up.  Whether it be by email, opinion pieces in newspapers, letters to the editor in newspapers, mockery on a public forum, etc.  That is what elected officials, from some schmuck in Snohomish County all the way up to the President of the United States, can expect when they are elected.
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Re: WA Rep. Robert Sutherland's comments about fish and wildlife officers
« Reply #96 on: April 26, 2020, 02:56:08 PM »
I hear you Igor, for all the talk of mountains and mole hills, it really doesn’t take too much imagination to see how Sutherland’s words might prompt The OP’s concern. It might not look too big in the larger context of what we’re all moving through. But to any LEO and their loved ones I’m guessing that “mole hill” is particularly daunting. But maybe I’m wrong, and just a victim of UC’s conspiracy  :tinfoil:

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Re: WA Rep. Robert Sutherland's comments about fish and wildlife officers
« Reply #97 on: April 26, 2020, 03:13:46 PM »

My point was/is that your time could be better spent than trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, twist others posts, trying to belittle them, etc. Instead you have senselessly attacked any one that dared question the OP's original post. Hopefully since you noted you are having trouble posting with your phone you are not driving and posting.

Your "mountain out of a molehill" line is getting a little stale.  The original post was directed at a publicly elected official.  Any, repeat any, publicly elected official is fair game as far as criticism from the electorate if he screws up.  Whether it be by email, opinion pieces in newspapers, letters to the editor in newspapers, mockery on a public forum, etc.  That is what elected officials, from some schmuck in Snohomish County all the way up to the President of the United States, can expect when they are elected.
It ain't personal.........it's politics.

I think I suggested that the OP should write a letter and express his feelings. Trying to ignite the masses over a comment that got hyped by Inslee and the media when most people with a brain knew it was not an actual call to arms for the masses to be used against the wardens. It was out of place and was quickly withdrawn. I get it. You want to torch the guy over the molehill and I don't. I think you have forgotten that this is mainly a hunting and fishing forum , not a cheering squad for the WDFW who appear to be down by 100 points in the fourth quarter and they just fumbled again.

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Re: WA Rep. Robert Sutherland's comments about fish and wildlife officers
« Reply #98 on: April 26, 2020, 03:24:44 PM »

My point was/is that your time could be better spent than trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, twist others posts, trying to belittle them, etc. Instead you have senselessly attacked any one that dared question the OP's original post. Hopefully since you noted you are having trouble posting with your phone you are not driving and posting.

Pegasus........Your "mountain out of a molehill" line is getting a little stale.  The original post was directed at a publicly elected official.  Any, repeat any, publicly elected official is fair game as far as criticism from the electorate if he screws up.  Whether it be by email, opinion pieces in newspapers, letters to the editor in newspapers, mockery on a public forum, etc.  That is what elected officials, from some schmuck in Snohomish County all the way up to the President of the United States, can expect when they are elected.
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Re: WA Rep. Robert Sutherland's comments about fish and wildlife officers
« Reply #99 on: April 26, 2020, 03:26:33 PM »
I hear you Igor, for all the talk of mountains and mole hills, it really doesn’t take too much imagination to see how Sutherland’s words might prompt The OP’s concern. It might not look too big in the larger context of what we’re all moving through. But to any LEO and their loved ones I’m guessing that “mole hill” is particularly daunting. But maybe I’m wrong, and just a victim of UC’s conspiracy  :tinfoil:
Thank you for understanding my point of view, although you may be in on it too.

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Re: WA Rep. Robert Sutherland's comments about fish and wildlife officers
« Reply #100 on: April 26, 2020, 05:47:23 PM »
I think you have forgotten that this is mainly a hunting and fishing forum........

Yet, here you are, throwing rocks at, and insulting, the OP who has spent most of his adult life working in that very arena of hunting and fishing.  Who came on here to ask for support for his fellow WDFW officers when he saw that they were being unfairly targeted by some loud-mouthed politician.  If you want to know who de-railed the thread, try looking in a mirror.
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Re: WA Rep. Robert Sutherland's comments about fish and wildlife officers
« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2020, 06:48:55 PM »
I think you have forgotten that this is mainly a hunting and fishing forum........

Yet, here you are, throwing rocks at, and insulting, the OP who has spent most of his adult life working in that very arena of hunting and fishing.  Who came on here to ask for support for his fellow WDFW officers when he saw that they were being unfairly targeted by some loud-mouthed politician.  If you want to know who de-railed the thread, try looking in a mirror.

Thanks for you support and understanding.  It is well appreciated

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« Reply #102 on: April 26, 2020, 09:38:07 PM »
Saw pics of some WDFW game wardens at the protest on Lake Union today.

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Re: WA Rep. Robert Sutherland's comments about fish and wildlife officers
« Reply #103 on: April 26, 2020, 10:12:53 PM »
Saw pics of some WDFW game wardens at the protest on Lake Union today.


I'd be more impressed  if there were 300 lines in the water to protest the issue.

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« Reply #104 on: April 26, 2020, 11:01:37 PM »
Saw pics of some WDFW game wardens at the protest on Lake Union today.


I'd be more impressed  if there were 300 lines in the water to protest the issue.

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The organizers of the protest specifically asked the attendees to not do stuff like that.
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