New gray wolf pack discovered near valley, WDFW reports

[wolfbait]

New gray wolf pack discovered near valley, WDFW reports

https://methowvalleynews.com/2020/04/29/new-gray-wolf-pack-discovered-near-valley-wdfw-reports/

[Wazntme]

Well that’s just lovely news....

[nwwanderer]

And she appears to be packing a litter of pups, lovely

[huntnnw]

just what that herd needed

[Skyvalhunter]

Well this doesn't surprise me. The pack numbers keep increasing past the quota to delist (15 breeding pairs) only because they are not dispersed enough. While we watch the deer and elk population continue to dwindle!! 

[Taco280AI]

Changing the goalpost, sounds familiar.

[MADMAX]

you know what to do, big damm coyote

[Cougartail]

According to Sofia Ressler lethal control isn't effective?  Funny how people who never have done any predator control know so much. She must have got that from some liberal pie eating college education as coyotes won't even come to my bait pile at the house anymore.

Night vision has a deterrent effect..

[buckfvr]

Lethal control not being effective, then where/how did they go in the 1930s ?  24/7/365

[wolfbait]

Well this doesn't surprise me. The pack numbers keep increasing past the quota to delist (15 breeding pairs) only because they are not dispersed enough. While we watch the deer and elk population continue to dwindle!! 

The confirmation of this pack like the Loup pack is a joke, these wolves have been there for several years, I wonder when they will confirm the wolves in McFarland cr, or the wolves that travel the south summit, Benson Cr, how about the wolves up 25 Mile Cr and other areas of known wolf packs over the years?

The USFWS played the same game, always behind in wolf pack confirmations, and then by the time they confirmed known wolf packs there were several
 times as many wolves.

In 2008 when WDFW were forced to confirm a wolf pack, there were several other packs in the Methow drainage and Okanogan, but for years WDFW blame every wolf sightings in the Okanogan to be one of the Lookout pack wolves.


Wolf Numbers Underestimated

There are so many variables involved in attempting to estimate the total number of wolves in a state that any such estimate is prone to large errors even with the best information available. But when the existence of every wolf that has not been part of a “collared” pack is ignored, any such estimate is suspect.

For example, local residents reported several wolf packs in Boise County yet FWS had documented only two. When the Team finally documented the existence of three more packs there were 2-1/2 times as many wolf packs as had been recorded and a similar increase in the number of breeding pairs – indicated both by pups and by yearlings that were born in the prior year and survived.

Although FWS goes back and adjusts the number of breeding pairs for the prior year when this evidence is documented, this system always results in initially underestimating both total wolves and breeding pairs. Recovery goals in all three states were met at least 2-3 years before then current FWS estimates said they were, yet the actual number of breeding pairs was not admitted and recorded until after the fact.
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[Taco280AI]

Big coyotes

[Bango skank]

Lethal control not being effective, then where/how did they go in the 1930s ?  24/7/365

 

“The science clearly shows that killing wolves isn’t an effective way to prevent future conflicts,” said Sophia Ressler


 

Id like to ask her how many wolf depredations there were in wa between 1930 and 1990 

[HillHound]

No kidding. Sounds like Sophia needs a load another bowl. She must be smoking crack if she really believes that.

[jpharcher]

A couple of years ago a few old timers I know that hunt lower end of Lewis River tried to give trail cam pics of collared "dogs" throughout they area and WDFW was not interested in looking at them and told them it was probably just Coyotes.....GAME ON

[bigmacc]

Another nail in the coffin of a once historic mule deer herd, it won't be long before the valley will be draw only for deer hunting, between exploding numbers of cougar, bear and wolf this herd has been decimated, its been reduced by over 10-15,000 head over the last 25 or so years. IMHO this herd is at the brink, less and less deer seen every single year, this last winter scouting trip was the worst numbers we've ever counted, some traditional migration routes were all but null and void of deer and the trend has been less and less over the last decade and I have no doubt that next winters counts will be even worse, just a shame.