WDFW passes on culling Wedge wolf pack

[Dan-o]

Pianoman thinks I'm the only Patriot here.     Pretty offensive comment to a lot of folks here.

Chuck

Swing and a miss.

I think we all knew what he was saying.

[ribka]

Where is  WA Sportsmen's savior Mitch Friedman of Conservation NW? He promised he would work with sportsmen, ranchers and the anti hunting kooks and solve the wolf issue. He received hundreds of thousands of dollars from WDFW ( our tax payer money) Now he and Chase Gunnel are nowhere to be seen after the money ran out and they fleeced the tax payers. . You don't think he scammed the tax payers of WA?  He seemed like such a nice anti hunting eco terrrorist.   LMAO. He's chasing the covid recovery  money now and left you suckers behind with an exploding uncontrolled wolf populations.

Amazing what a dishonest scammer can do and face no legal repercussions.

The wedge and the ranchers within are ground zero for the wolf fight in Washington, it's where it all started, where the very first wolves were killed igniting a firestorm.

As such it got very political and the ranchers came under heavy scrutiny.  One screwup and the state would love to get even, and make an example out of them.

That fight is still underway.

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Some of the Cattlemen were told that if there was a shot wolf the weapons they had would have been rounded up and had ballistic tests done on them looking for suspects.

Haha, how much cheaper is it to buy a gun SSS and lose the gun from the cost of damages?.. just asking for a friend...

[KFhunter]

And what did our tax money get us with francine madden? Think the total money she fleeced taxpayers was north of a million bucks

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[Utah]

Pianoman thinks I'm the only Patriot here.     Pretty offensive comment to a lot of folks here.

Chuck

Swing and a miss.

I think we all knew what he was saying.

So I had a big swing and miss but he didn't in reference to my comments?     It's ok all ya'all new what I meant to.  Guess I just need to work on a more politically correct approach...    No thanks. Being Politically is whats got this country so mess up.  I'll remain myself.

[Dan-o]

Pianoman thinks I'm the only Patriot here.     Pretty offensive comment to a lot of folks here.

Chuck

Swing and a miss.

I think we all knew what he was saying.

So I had a big swing and miss but he didn't in reference to my comments?     It's ok all ya'all new what I meant to.  Guess I just need to work on a more politically correct approach...    No thanks. Being Politically is whats got this country so mess up.  I'll remain myself.

Dude, you're the one that said " you people are as dumb as it gets. "

There's a difference between being PC, and calling the rest of the crowd dumb.

If you can't understand that, well then just keep insulting people for no good reason but don't be surprised when people dismiss you with funny comments.
   
 

[Utah]

Haha,  truth irritates alot of sheep.  Don't worry the rest of us will take care of it for ya.  III%

[vandeman17]

Haha,  truth irritates alot of sheep.  Don't worry the rest of us will take care of it for ya.  III%

 

[bornhunter]

I think we should all form a group called "Black Angus Matter."
We all go to Olympia and march with signs showing wolves biting the necks of black angus calves. They would surely do something then, wouldnt they?

[CGDucksandDeer]

Where is  WA Sportsmen's savior Mitch Friedman of Conservation NW? He promised he would work with sportsmen, ranchers and the anti hunting kooks and solve the wolf issue. He received hundreds of thousands of dollars from WDFW ( our tax payer money) Now he and Chase Gunnel are nowhere to be seen after the money ran out and they fleeced the tax payers. . You don't think he scammed the tax payers of WA?  He seemed like such a nice anti hunting eco terrrorist.   LMAO. He's chasing the covid recovery  money now and left you suckers behind with an exploding uncontrolled wolf populations.

Amazing what a dishonest scammer can do and face no legal repercussions.

Ribka, your obession with CNW and I never fails to amuse. Anti-hunting? I took three bucks and a doe in three different states last year. Freezer is about empty now, good thing it's fishing season, with bear and an out-of-state hunt just around the corner.

CNW is not voicing opposition to this latest lethal removal order, radical out-of-state groups like CBD are, as usual. Our interest is sustainable, responsible wolf population recovery, conservation and management, not endless litigation over individual wolf removals.

As usual, and unlike the litigant groups from Arizona and Oregon, our staff and contractors are on the ground in eastern WA working with ranchers to help keep conflicts to a minimum: https://www.conservationnw.org/news-updates/range-rider-pilot-project-tenth-year/

[bearpaw]

WDFW is finally going to remove 2 wolves, on the radio this morning, must be press release too somewhere.

[CGDucksandDeer]

WDFW is finally going to remove 2 wolves, on the radio this morning, must be press release too somewhere.

This order is for the Togo Pack. WDFW is still mulling what to do about the Wedge, given the history there and the ranch involved.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/jun/19/wdfw-director-reauthorizes-lethal-action-in-togo-w/


Per usual, California-based staffer from the Center for Bio Diversity crying bloody wolf murder, along with The Lands Council out of Spokane unfairly critiquing ranchers and range riders despite having zero skin in the range riding game (which isn't surprising, they sh*t talk ranchers so much, why would anyone work with them).

The wolf population is doing very well in northeast Washington, and these removals won't change that. Ranchers deserve help, both proactive support and appropriate management response to conflicts.

If only mule deer in the Kettles generated this much attention.

[bearpaw]

WDFW is finally going to remove 2 wolves, on the radio this morning, must be press release too somewhere.

This order is for the Togo Pack. WDFW is still mulling what to do about the Wedge, given the history there and the ranch involved.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/jun/19/wdfw-director-reauthorizes-lethal-action-in-togo-w/


Per usual, California-based staffer from the Center for Bio Diversity crying bloody wolf murder, along with The Lands Council out of Spokane unfairly critiquing ranchers and range riders despite having zero skin in the range riding game (which isn't surprising, they sh*t talk ranchers so much, why would anyone work with them).

The wolf population is doing very well in northeast Washington, and these removals won't change that. Ranchers deserve help, both proactive support and appropriate management response to conflicts.

If only mule deer in the Kettles generated this much attention.

I completely agree that mule deer need help, especially in all of NE WA. Is your org willing to let a few more cats be taken to reduce the higher than ever predation factor on mule deer?

[Loup Loup]

Yes I agree that mule deer in NE WA need releif from predators. But, that being said, NE WA, as a whole, has never been prime high production mule deer habitat.
What should be causing an uproar from hunters, and what few small business owners are left in small town Chelan and Okanogan counties is the low population of mule deer that are hanging on.
Chelan and Okanogan counties, historically has been the heartland of mule deer range in this state. To allow this once common specie to wink out is an Unbeleivably obvious example of head in the sand by Wildlife "managers" and sportsmen.
Mule deer have been mismanaged to the point where we now have a skelliton population hanging in in Chelan and Okanogan countys. I hear people say "Oh we had winter kill last winter". And leave it at that. Come on. We haven't had a winter in several years. Mule deer have been wintering and recovering for 40,000
Winters.
This problem has several moving parts. The most important is winter range degradation. Its been burned hard for three decades then allowed to come back in cheat grass and knap weed. We have unlimited summer range in Chelan and Okanogan counties, but very limited wintering areas left.
When the population has been beat down to a skelliton level there is no way they can come back through the Porrly managed, Unlimited Bobcats, bears, cougars, coyotes, dogs, golden eagles, ravens, poachers, and cars. And still allow a token harvest by hunters.
It seems NE Wa gets most of the attention when it comes to predators.
I think all of Eastern Washington should be concerned about the mismanagement of not only predators, but all of our game and habitat.

[Loup Loup]

In my predator turrets roll I inadvertently left out wolves.

[bearpaw]

Yes I agree that mule deer in NE WA need releif from predators. But, that being said, NE WA, as a whole, has never been prime high production mule deer habitat.
What should be causing an uproar from hunters, and what few small business owners are left in small town Chelan and Okanogan counties is the low population of mule deer that are hanging on.
Chelan and Okanogan counties, historically has been the heartland of mule deer range in this state. To allow this once common specie to wink out is an Unbeleivably obvious example of head in the sand by Wildlife "managers" and sportsmen.
Mule deer have been mismanaged to the point where we now have a skelliton population hanging in in Chelan and Okanogan countys. I hear people say "Oh we had winter kill last winter". And leave it at that. Come on. We haven't had a winter in several years. Mule deer have been wintering and recovering for 40,000
Winters.
This problem has several moving parts. The most important is winter range degradation. Its been burned hard for three decades then allowed to come back in cheat grass and knap weed. We have unlimited summer range in Chelan and Okanogan counties, but very limited wintering areas left.
When the population has been beat down to a skelliton level there is no way they can come back through the Porrly managed, Unlimited Bobcats, bears, cougars, coyotes, dogs, golden eagles, ravens, poachers, and cars. And still allow a token harvest by hunters.
It seems NE Wa gets most of the attention when it comes to predators.
I think all of Eastern Washington should be concerned about the mismanagement of not only predators, but all of our game and habitat.

People in your county just have to start making a lot of noise about it or WDFW will continue to ignore the elimination of your game herds by predators.

FYI: There actually used to be strong mule deer herds in NE WA, as a kid I watched large herds of wintering mule deer, but the further we got away from the cougar bounty days and as cougar populations multiplied the mule deer disappeared. When I started cougar hunting as a kid we hunted on average a week to find a fresh cougar track. For the last 30 years I can average finding at least a half dozen different fresh tracks a day. That is what has happened to our mule deer! They have been turned into kitty poo!

The F&G biologist have all been trained in college by liberal predator loving professors to reject the real truth! Here's the truth of what has happened to mule deer!