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Re: Bullet ??'s and Concerns
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2020, 02:07:23 PM »
 I’ve never had a issue using Partitions, never needed more than a single bullet to do the job. :twocents:
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Re: Bullet ??'s and Concerns
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2020, 02:10:03 PM »
I’ve never had a issue using Partitions, never needed more than a single bullet to do the job. :twocents:

I 100% agree.  Only reason I use the accubonds in a couple rifles is for the better BC and longer range shooting.  I have three rifles that shoot non-partition bullets.  All the rest shoot the good old fashion partitions with great results. 

Anyone ever pushed a partition to 600 yards????   Maybe I should see what accuracy does with the partitions.  I have a few laying on the shelf... :chuckle:

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Re: Bullet ??'s and Concerns
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2020, 04:10:03 PM »
I’ve never had a issue using Partitions, never needed more than a single bullet to do the job. :twocents:

I 100% agree.  Only reason I use the accubonds in a couple rifles is for the better BC and longer range shooting.  I have three rifles that shoot non-partition bullets.  All the rest shoot the good old fashion partitions with great results. 

Anyone ever pushed a partition to 600 yards????   Maybe I should see what accuracy does with the partitions.  I have a few laying on the shelf... :chuckle:

 Long range is cool and all, but what are you hunting that you need to shoot out passed 500 yards? Just curious. ;)

 Been hunting a long time, have more than a couple better than average critters, and have never needed to take a shot that far away. :dunno:
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Re: Bullet ??'s and Concerns
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2020, 04:49:10 PM »
I’ve never had a issue using Partitions, never needed more than a single bullet to do the job. :twocents:

I 100% agree.  Only reason I use the accubonds in a couple rifles is for the better BC and longer range shooting.  I have three rifles that shoot non-partition bullets.  All the rest shoot the good old fashion partitions with great results. 

Anyone ever pushed a partition to 600 yards????   Maybe I should see what accuracy does with the partitions.  I have a few laying on the shelf... :chuckle:

 Long range is cool and all, but what are you hunting that you need to shoot out passed 500 yards? Just curious. ;)

 Been hunting a long time, have more than a couple better than average critters, and have never needed to take a shot that far away. :dunno:

I have set my max range on animals as 600 yards if conditions are right.  I shoot out to 800 on the regular and have shot 1000 when available on steel.  I use to have a max range of 300 yards and even that made me very nervous.  When I got a good set up and started shooting long(er) ranges, it really simplified the 300-400 yard shots.   Now to shoot 500 is a chip shot in reasonable conditions.  I hunt a lot of open country and often have to shoot across valleys.  I will say that the majority of my shots have been 300 or less and even if I see something at 500, I will try and get closer.  In those instances where I cannot, if given the time to set up and get a good rest.....I will take the shot with 100% confidence.   

I was set up to shoot longer ranges in Idaho a couple years ago.  I ended up shooting my two deer at less than 100 yards.  First one was maybe 30 yards.   :chuckle: :chuckle:  10 years ago, I would have looked down on people shooting much over 300 yards.....Now that I have the experience, optics, rifle and handloads, it really isn't rocket science.   

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Re: Bullet ??'s and Concerns
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2020, 04:50:21 PM »
Unless Sierra bullets have changed since I formed my opinion in the 70's they are too soft for serious hunting and shed jackets.  They are accurate but soft bullets.  We'd hunt thru game and fine cores and jackets separate.

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Re: Bullet ??'s and Concerns
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2020, 08:19:56 PM »
I’ve never had a issue using Partitions, never needed more than a single bullet to do the job. :twocents:

I 100% agree.  Only reason I use the accubonds in a couple rifles is for the better BC and longer range shooting.  I have three rifles that shoot non-partition bullets.  All the rest shoot the good old fashion partitions with great results. 

Anyone ever pushed a partition to 600 yards????   Maybe I should see what accuracy does with the partitions.  I have a few laying on the shelf... :chuckle:

 Long range is cool and all, but what are you hunting that you need to shoot out passed 500 yards? Just curious. ;)

 Been hunting a long time, have more than a couple better than average critters, and have never needed to take a shot that far away. :dunno:

I have set my max range on animals as 600 yards if conditions are right.  I shoot out to 800 on the regular and have shot 1000 when available on steel.  I use to have a max range of 300 yards and even that made me very nervous.  When I got a good set up and started shooting long(er) ranges, it really simplified the 300-400 yard shots.   Now to shoot 500 is a chip shot in reasonable conditions.  I hunt a lot of open country and often have to shoot across valleys.  I will say that the majority of my shots have been 300 or less and even if I see something at 500, I will try and get closer.  In those instances where I cannot, if given the time to set up and get a good rest.....I will take the shot with 100% confidence.   

I was set up to shoot longer ranges in Idaho a couple years ago.  I ended up shooting my two deer at less than 100 yards.  First one was maybe 30 yards.   :chuckle: :chuckle:  10 years ago, I would have looked down on people shooting much over 300 yards.....Now that I have the experience, optics, rifle and handloads, it really isn't rocket science.

 Perfect! :tup:

 I’d imagine you won’t have a problem shooting Partitions then. :twocents:
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Re: Bullet ??'s and Concerns
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2020, 09:18:20 PM »
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Re: Bullet ??'s and Concerns
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2020, 07:38:45 AM »
175 LRX would check all the boxes.

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Re: Bullet ??'s and Concerns
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2020, 09:05:57 AM »
Not sure how they will work on game but tried some factory 215 Bergers yesterday in
 my 40 year old Vanguard 300 wm. Jump with these is .100     Paint is worn off the stock, bluing worn off half the barrel.  Trigger is super stiff,  a little pitting in muzzle end of barrel, no bedding.   No brake so it hops off the rest by 6” when you shoot unless you death grip it .

500 yards. 





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Re: Bullet ??'s and Concerns
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2020, 09:12:05 AM »
Anything 30 cal that I own is gonna shoot 215 bergers if they can stabilize them.
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Re: Bullet ??'s and Concerns
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2020, 09:29:56 PM »
After a little research, I think I may try the ELD-M before making major changes.  If the M's shoot the same as the X's then the change will be very easy.  Most are saying the M's are a better bullet for hunting anyway.  Hopefully I can whack a fall bear with the M to report back.  I will see how they shoot first.   :tup:

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Re: Bullet ??'s and Concerns
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2020, 10:36:46 PM »
Don't the ELD-Ms have a thinner jacket through the boattail and no interlock ring?
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Bullet ??'s and Concerns
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2020, 05:50:18 AM »
Used 180g Sierra game Kings last year at 2700 FPS.

Shot a black bear broadside, through both shoulder blades last year at 240 yards. Bullet left a clean exit hole I could push my index finger though.

 


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