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Insulated Sleeping Pad
« on: June 14, 2020, 09:26:44 PM »
Any recommendations?  Backpacking, so weight counts. Would like minimum 72" long, and not too narrow. Insulated as well.
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2020, 09:59:35 PM »
Check out the Exped Mats... a little heavier than some, but the best I have used

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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2020, 10:27:27 PM »
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2020, 10:44:20 PM »
What I use and the go to for most people I know is the Thermarest NeoAir Xtherm. Lightweight for what it is. Enough insulation to get the job done.
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2020, 11:19:40 PM »
What's your budget?
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2020, 04:36:07 AM »
I went from the Thermarest Neoair XTherm to the Sea to Summit comfort plus insulated and have slept better since.  The Thermarest was just too noisy for me.  Comfort wise both are very comparable, I just couldn't get past the potato chip bag sound of the XTherm.  If that wouldn't bother you, I'd say go either way.

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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2020, 04:58:50 AM »
I had the Neo air Xlite (yellow) and the "potato chip" sound at night was terrible (more for the folks near me than myself!).  After a few death threats - I am a restless sleeper - I moved to the Neo Air Xtherm (kinda silver/olive colored).  Love it. 

Very comfortable, warm on snow and much quieter.  No more complaints from my peers either. 

Mine weighs in at 15 ounces (0.94 lbs) and rolls to about the size of a 1 liter bottle of water.  It goes with me on most day hikes for emergency purposes.  LOVE IT.

They are rather spendy though.  Be sure to pack a patch kit.  having it deflate and not be able to repair it could be a big issue!
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2020, 05:49:11 AM »
Klymit Insulated Static V

a little heavier than some but quieter and cheaper
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2020, 05:52:24 AM »
After using the insulated Klymit last year, losing air after a couple nights, I just went with the Big Agnes QCore SLX. https://www.bigagnes.com/Q-Core-SLX?quantity=1&custcol7=17

I haven’t used it yet other than in the house checking it out. I have some buddies that really like it. Something else for u to check out.

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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2020, 05:56:27 AM »
I have an expensive blow up rei pad and blow up cheaper pad,and I also have a very cheap accordion style foam pad.  99% of the time, I'm taking my foam type pad, works just fine, light, and I'll never have to worry about popping the damn thing.
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2020, 06:58:08 AM »
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2020, 07:51:17 AM »
I went from the Thermarest Neoair XTherm to the Sea to Summit comfort plus insulated and have slept better since.  The Thermarest was just too noisy for me.  Comfort wise both are very comparable, I just couldn't get past the potato chip bag sound of the XTherm.  If that wouldn't bother you, I'd say go either way.

Similar experience - Sea to Summit Comfort Plus is worth the weight to me.  I went from a BA Q-Core, with a questionable R-rating.  It was cold.

For total weight savings and insulation, XTherm is the standard.  Nothing is as warm and light as this.  But you give up some noise and comfort.

Comfort Plus is over twice the weight I believe, but 2 inches longer and an inch wider (for the large versions).  Not sure on thickness, but i would imagine an inch or two as well.

I think it comes down to how well you sleep and how little you move.

I've heard good things with Exped, and have one of their huge ones for my cot in the wall tent, but haven't ever tried them for backpacking.

Also, can't beat Klymit Insulated Static V Sleeping Pad for the cost. 

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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2020, 08:19:30 AM »
I’ve really liked my Klymit insulated static v as well. Very comfortable and kept me warm down into the teens...

Compact and not a lot heavier than others out there...but if I was doing more than 1-3 night trips I’d save the weight and go w the xtherm.

I’ve also used the Xtherm that I borrowed from my son.  It’s lighter than the Klymit, but has a mummy bag profile at the lower section and my feet fall off when I’m flopping around at night....so for comfort I vote for the Klymit
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2020, 08:28:04 AM »
Picked up one of these last year and really like it. Check it out since you’re shopping  ;)

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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2020, 08:47:07 AM »
Whatever you get, I recommend you get one that is at a minimum 25" wide.

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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2020, 10:51:10 AM »
Thanks for all the great ideas, but you guys sure are making it tough lol.  I was looking at the Klymit Static V for price ($53 on ExpertVoice), the BA QCore SLX(unfortunately ExpertVoice is out) or ALX Air and the Sea to Summits, and all of those have been mentioned here  :chuckle: :bash: 
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2020, 11:14:32 AM »
I don't personally care for fully inflating camping gear. Most are very noisy and if they pop on day three of eight in the back country it could be a real pain. I have the Thermarest Trail Pro which is a hybrid. 2" of foam with an outer air baffle and an R value of 4. Pair it with a light weight foam pad to up the R value if needed. 1 pound 10 ounces and a bit bigger than a fully inflatable pad. Three different size options.
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2020, 12:01:20 PM »
Make sure that it specifically says that the model you buy is insulated. A lot of the same models have non-insulated versions and it's not always clear.

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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2020, 12:13:59 PM »
The QCore SLX is not very insulated if you're looking for a true 3 season or 4 season pad. I'm on ExpertVoice too and ran one last year and have since sold it.

I would not recommend it below 30-40 degrees.

The QCore Deluxe looks to be comparable to the Comfort Plus.

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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2020, 04:14:38 PM »
The insulated q-core slx comes in at a 3.2 R value. If shopping on expert voice check out Nemo also. They have the Tensor ultralight at 3.5 R value. While you’re there check out their bags. I’ve got the sonic in a 0* and just got the Kayu in 15*, love them!

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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2020, 11:54:13 PM »
I've had several inflatable pads.  I take an altered Thermarest ridgerest 3/4 with me to sit on when I glass so the earth doesn't suck the heat outta my body.  At night it goes under whatever Inflatable I use and oh boy no heat loss there.. Your bag?  Well that's another heat loss topic. In other words You'll Glass longer on colder days and be warmer at night.
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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2020, 06:08:03 AM »
Cold seasons the Exped Downmat goose down filled inflatable is nice with R values 5.9 to 7. 
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2020, 06:09:46 AM »
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2020, 08:05:29 AM »
I've got some real pent up rage these days at inflatable sleeping pads. 3 BA pads in 2 years, a single season on my last thermarest, one season on my klymit, and I thought I loved my new Nemo but woke up on the ground this last weekend bear hunting so a solid 8 months on that pad :bash:  I've become so anal about ground prep before I pitch my shelters and I treat my pads like a new born baby but they still leak. BA have been the absolute worst but they are the Vortex of sleeping pads and will replace them real quick like. Not sure what my next pad will be. Maybe I'll start carrying one of those 4" thick foam bed rolls I use for my cot in the wall tent :chuckle:
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2020, 09:47:02 AM »
Not to hijack the thread, but how are you guys storing your pads? Could be helping contribute to the leak epidemic. Are you getting leaks in the seems or via punctures?

Best guidance I've gotten (via a thermarest rep) was pull out of sack (if you use) blow it up, open the deflate valve. Store flat.

Storing rolled up or compressed will compromise the strength of materials and seems over time.

My Xtherm isn't very old, but I have a 3 year old Klymit, and like a 10 year old thermarest. Nothing leaks
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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2020, 11:05:12 AM »
They hang with my sleeping bags. Mine do see a lot of use in a season but I haven't had a pad for more than a season in a long time.
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« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2020, 11:32:18 AM »
They hang with my sleeping bags. Mine do see a lot of use in a season but I haven't had a pad for more than a season in a long time.

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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2020, 11:34:17 AM »
They hang with my sleeping bags. Mine do see a lot of use in a season but I haven't had a pad for more than a season in a long time.

Do you toss and turn a lot in your sleep that you know of?
I'm for sure a side sleeper. That's why I have to use 3"+ pads. Also my "season" is like 90+ nights so may be more use than others
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2020, 11:39:45 AM »
I've been using the Thermarest Neoair XTherm.  I pair it with a Big Agnes sleeping bag that has a fabric sleeve on the bottom that you can stuff the XTherm in so it doesn't move around.  I've tried it with other sleeping bags and agree with others it's way too loud, esp if sharing a tent.  But that sleeve keeps you from sliding off and eliminates the sound issue.  I haven't had an issue with leakage yet... crossing fingers ;)

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« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2020, 11:42:29 AM »
They hang with my sleeping bags. Mine do see a lot of use in a season but I haven't had a pad for more than a season in a long time.

Do you toss and turn a lot in your sleep that you know of?
I'm for sure a side sleeper. That's why I have to use 3"+ pads. Also my "season" is like 90+ nights so may be more use than others

Side sleeper as well so I use a thicker pad too. Kills my hips if I don't
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2020, 11:55:29 AM »
I've been using the Thermarest Neoair XTherm.  I pair it with a Big Agnes sleeping bag that has a fabric sleeve on the bottom that you can stuff the XTherm in so it doesn't move around.  I've tried it with other sleeping bags and agree with others it's way too loud, esp if sharing a tent.  But that sleeve keeps you from sliding off and eliminates the sound issue.  I haven't had an issue with leakage yet... crossing fingers ;)
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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2020, 12:31:22 PM »
They hang with my sleeping bags. Mine do see a lot of use in a season but I haven't had a pad for more than a season in a long time.

Do you toss and turn a lot in your sleep that you know of?
I'm for sure a side sleeper. That's why I have to use 3"+ pads. Also my "season" is like 90+ nights so may be more use than others

Side sleeper as well so I use a thicker pad too. Kills my hips if I don't

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Re: Insulated Sleeping Pad
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2020, 01:17:17 PM »
They hang with my sleeping bags. Mine do see a lot of use in a season but I haven't had a pad for more than a season in a long time.

Do you toss and turn a lot in your sleep that you know of?
I'm for sure a side sleeper. That's why I have to use 3"+ pads. Also my "season" is like 90+ nights so may be more use than others

Side sleeper as well so I use a thicker pad too. Kills my hips if I don't

Easy fix for that.  Just have your hip replaced like I did!  problem solved.

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