Buying a pistol in Idaho

[724wd]

Got a pile of cabelas gift cards and want to buy a pistol. Living in Spokane, the post falls cabelas is the closest by far. Anyone done this? I believe it will have to be transferred to a dealer in WA, yes? Do they have a preferred dealer they work with?

[follow maggie]

I think it’s pretty simple, theyll just send it to an ffl in Washington. I’d bet they have one or two they work with.

[Bill W]

I see increased costs.

[724wd]

I see increased costs.

I don’t see a way around Washington’s extra fees.

[buglebrush]

Got a pile of cabelas gift cards and want to buy a pistol. Living in Spokane, the post falls cabelas is the closest by far. Anyone done this? I believe it will have to be transferred to a dealer in WA, yes? Do they have a preferred dealer they work with?

A guy at the gun counter in Post Falls claimed they were setting up an FFL right close on the WA side.  Don't know if that's true 

[BULLBLASTER]

I bought one in that cabelas a few years ago with points. I think i had to pay $20 transfer at the wa ffl, but i cant remember where i paid tax.

[Bill W]

I see increased costs.

I don’t see a way around Washington’s extra fees.

The extra fees I see are a transfer fee from Idaho store to some place in WA and a transaction fee for processing in WA.

[TriggerMike]

I don't understand the law requiring that a gun purchased in Idaho by a WA resident must be sent to an FFL in WA. Does the State of Washington own its citizens? Why does it matter where an American buys a gun in the US?

[Stein]

I don't understand the law requiring that a gun purchased in Idaho by a WA resident must be sent to an FFL in WA. Does the State of Washington own its citizens? Why does it matter where an American buys a gun in the US?

It's not a WA law, it's federal.

From the ATF:

Generally, for a person to lawfully
transfer a firearm to an unlicensed person who resides out of State, the firearm must be shipped to a
Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) within the recipient’s State of residence. He or she may then
receive the firearm from the FFL upon completion of an ATF Form 4473 and a NICS background
check. More information can be obtained on the ATF website at www.atf.gov and
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html

[TriggerMike]

I don't understand the law requiring that a gun purchased in Idaho by a WA resident must be sent to an FFL in WA. Does the State of Washington own its citizens? Why does it matter where an American buys a gun in the US?

It's not a WA law, it's federal.

From the ATF:

Generally, for a person to lawfully
transfer a firearm to an unlicensed person who resides out of State, the firearm must be shipped to a
Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) within the recipient’s State of residence. He or she may then
receive the firearm from the FFL upon completion of an ATF Form 4473 and a NICS background
check. More information can be obtained on the ATF website at www.atf.gov and
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html

Ah roger that. Thanks for clarifying. This law makes even less sense to me now since the background check is federal 

[carpsniperg2]

I dont know if they will charge to do a transfer but you will probably have a transfer or shipping charge from them. A transfer fee from the ffl doing your paperwork and dont forget tax coming into washington.

[724wd]

Even with the transfer fees and everything, still cheaper than driving twice to the closest Washington Cabela’s, win this one is so close.

[Bill W]

I think you will find that you can't do the buy in Idaho.  WA state dealers can only sell to state residents and I would bet the rules are reciprocal which would mean that Idaho dealers can only sell to Idaho residents.

[BigGoonTuna]

I think that’s a national thing. You can’t legally buy a handgun in any state you are not a resident of. It has to be shipped to an ffl in your home state.

Long guns are generally not a problem to buy out of state, except for the headaches caused by 1639.

[724wd]

I think you will find that you can't do the buy in Idaho.  WA state dealers can only sell to state residents and I would bet the rules are reciprocal which would mean that Idaho dealers can only sell to Idaho residents.

It just Hass to be shipped to a Washington FFL. You can buy pistols online from any state as long as they’re shipped to an in-state FFL

[Dadofive]

It's basically on the state line. They could open a FFL outside the back door. I bought a handgun there and picked it up at another Cabela's for free when I was traveling across the state

[724wd]

Here's a tip for you all... before waiting an hour to see a clerk at the gun counter (they only deal with one client at a time), make sure your drivers license is up to date 

With all this covid stuff and the DMV shut down, i've not renewed my license after my birthday, wanting to do the enhanced license and get it over with. I know the deadline has been extended but didn't want to pay twice, but now my sister tells me they only charge you the difference. Lesson learned!

[TriggerMike]

I think that’s a national thing. You can’t legally buy a handgun in any state you are not a resident of. It has to be shipped to an ffl in your home state.

Long guns are generally not a problem to buy out of state, except for the headaches caused by 1639.

What's the process for buying a rifle in Idaho? Walk out same day like it used to be in WA? I made a point to buy all my guns before any of these psycho laws were made so I'm out of touch with what I-1639 entails.

[bearpaw]

Long guns are generally not a problem to buy out of state, except for the headaches caused by 1639.

Very true. I have been a resident of WA, I have purchased rifles in WI, UT, ID, and New Zealand, there was never an issue until I-1939. I tried to purchase a rifle in UT after I-1639 passed, they wouldn't sell it to me, they said I-1639 prevented a WA resident from purchasing rifles in UT. They did say that if I owned a home in Idaho under federal firearms laws I would be considered a dual resident and able to purchase as an Idaho resident. I had to call the county courthouse in the Idaho county where I have a home to send the tax ID number of my ID property. I was only able to purchase the rifle because I qualified as an Idaho resident under firearm laws, it was ok'd by NICS.

So you may have trouble trying to purchase a firearm in any state because you are a WA resident unless you own home/property in another state, in which case you apparently would be considered a dual resident and able to purchase as a resident of the other state.

[Bob33]

Long guns: https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.122

RCW 9.41.122

Out-of-state purchasing.

Residents of Washington may purchase rifles and shotguns in a state other than Washington: PROVIDED, That such residents conform to the applicable provisions of the federal Gun Control Act of 1968, Title IV, Pub. L. 90-351 as administered by the United States secretary of the treasury: AND PROVIDED FURTHER, That such residents are eligible to purchase or possess such weapons in Washington and in the state in which such purchase is made: AND PROVIDED FURTHER, That when any part of the transaction takes place in Washington , including, but not limited to, internet sales, such residents are subject to the procedures and background checks required by this chapter.

[dilleytech]

When I buy a pistol in Oregon o pay to have it sent to the wa ffl they deal with. Then I pay the background check in wa and I also then have to pay tax on the weapon. Figure another 150$ once you go to pick it up in washing. And now expect to wait another week for mental health background check.. things are getting worse.