Response and reply to my WDFW letter (new email)

[Shannon]

I have a CPL but I have carried during archery seasons for years knowing that if I got an ass hole LEO that I would get ticketed. I was prepared to take it as far as needed to prove I have constitutional rights that this state can't stop me from exercising. That's what it will take to change this rule. Or a bow hunter that didn't carry because of the law that gets killed and there family sues the state. The NRA would probably provide the funding for legal assistance. I am glad I am now legal but other hunters that don't have a CPL need to push the issue. There are to many meth heads and other maggots out there that having rules to not be able to defend yourself is an accident waiting to happen.

[JoshT]

Or... they could just get a CPL.

[Kain]

Or... they could just get a CPL.

If you have to get a CPL to carry even openly then why not just roll over and accept full blown registration for everyone.  What you are accepting is that we need to have a license just to exercise our 2nd amendment rights.  I just cant believe you are OK with this.  And what about people under 21?  They cant carry to protect themselves?

[JoshT]

They can't even buy rounds... let alone the pistol that fires them... how is packing one any different?

If you buy the tag... you place the limits on yourself... we've been over this. You don't like it... just get the CPL... or hunt with a rifle. I think Full blown registration... and not being able to carry a MODERN FIREARM durring ARCHERY or MZ season without the proper CPL... are a looooooooooooooooong ways appart. This chicken little thing is going a little too far.

[Kain]

They can't even buy rounds... let alone the pistol that fires them... how is packing one any different?

If you buy the tag... you place the limits on yourself... we've been over this. You don't like it... just get the CPL... or hunt with a rifle. I think Full blown registration... and not being able to carry a MODERN FIREARM durring ARCHERY or MZ season without the proper CPL... are a looooooooooooooooong ways appart. This chicken little thing is going a little too far.

People under 21 can carry a weapon.  I am not placing the limit on myself.  I am being forced to choose between my placing restriction on my rights or not hunting the way I want.  Requiring a license to carry concealed or open IS full blown registration but I guess if only applies to a few thousand hunters its Ok.  If we just keep letting them chip away at your rights without any complaint they will just keep taking more.  Make a big fuss they will think twice about expanding on it in the future.  You like CPL's and think everyone should have one and that's fine.  I feel the CPL itself is stepping on our rights but I am willing accept that it is here to stay.  But I dont have to accept it being used for something it was never intended for by a government agency that has nothing to do with it.  You seem like a nice guy and you can have any opinion you want but this thread and others were created because some people have a problem with the new rule.  When you come on and keep saying that we should just give in "just get a CPL" it is just insulting the way we feel about it.

[Machias]

Give it up Kain, JoshT does not bowhunt or muzzleload hunt so really this is a pointless arugument with him.  That is why I stopped, your just

 

[Kain]

Give it up Kain, JoshT does not bowhunt or muzzleload hunt so really this is a pointless arugument with him.  That is why I stopped, your just

 

I guess so.  I am trying to be nice and not trying to change his mind, Im just trying let him know how some people feel about it.  Again, I started this thread and you started yours to try to get other people involved that feel the same way.  It wasnt my intention to try and change anyones mind.

[JoshT]

I have a MZ... just don't like the seasons. Used to hunt with a bow... bought one last month becuase I missed it... but I can't shoot one anymore, shoulder just can't take it. I have a CPL... every gun owner should...

The way I see it... the WDFW has the right to restrict the access a hunter has to a firearm for bow and mz hunters... you accept that right... so quit bitching. They're not infringing on your right to keep and bear arms... you are... with the purchase of that tag. Why should bow hunters get a different set of seasons? Why should mz hunters get a different set of seasons? Answer... because the rules are different and accepted by all who participate in said season... if you don't like the rules... don't play.

[Machias]

 

[Kain]

In my opinion they should not have the right to restrict access to any weapon.  They have the right to restrict the weapon I kill the animal I have a tag for.  If I have a bear tag and an archery deer tag I feel I should be able to carry both a rifle and a bow.  It doesnt matter how I feel about that though because there is not a constitution that protects that as a right.  There is one for a person to carry a weapon for personal protection and there are laws in place to regulate how and when a person can do that.  The WDFW has eliminated both the constitutional right and the state law with this one rule change.  You think is great and I think it is horrible.  I dont know why you keep trying to force your opinion on us.

[JoshT]

I think it SUCKS... you know that... I'm just saying I... A: see the logic (squed as it may be) behind it... and B: see that's there's a provision that allows it.

[Machias]

    

[JoshT]

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[Kain]

I think it SUCKS... you know that... I'm just saying I... A: see the logic (squed as it may be) behind it... and B: see that's there's a provision that allows it.

Your right I should have said "you think it is acceptable and I think it is not."   

[SHANE(WA)]

I will carry no matter what! federal law. I wont get one cause I am not paying this state anymore money.Taxes here are outrageous, lets give them more. lol