commissioner of public lands

[Boss .300 winmag]

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[Buckhunter24]

Yeah they do, not in an amount I would consider significant. So not a regulatory change to washington firest practices, just a limitation on spraying of public ground is what you are after?

[BearCreekCookBook]

I’m just tired of people like Hilary virtue signaling about “climate change” and forest fires when they continue to take actions to perpetuate poor forest health. Deer need food to thrive and killing all the under brush and broad leaf trees leads to the expansive evergreen dead zones that are basically devoid of wildlife. I am mainly speaking about what they’re doing on the west side of the mountains, I find these signs at nearly all new cuts over here. They do it during the summer when most people aren’t out in the logging areas.

[JimmyHoffa]

I’m just tired of people like Hilary virtue signaling about “climate change” and forest fires when they continue to take actions to perpetuate poor forest health. Deer need food to thrive and killing all the under brush and broad leaf trees leads to the expansive evergreen dead zones that are basically devoid of wildlife. I am mainly speaking about what they’re doing on the west side of the mountains, I find these signs at nearly all new cuts over here. They do it during the summer when most people aren’t out in the logging areas.

And when they talk about salmon and all they are doing with silt barriers/culvert removal....and then spray off the deciduous plants in favor of the evergreen-green deserts. 

[Lucky1]

It was totally ridiculous that they locked us out of our state lands because of a virus.

[buckfvr]

I’m just tired of people like Hilary virtue signaling about “climate change” and forest fires when they continue to take actions to perpetuate poor forest health. Deer need food to thrive and killing all the under brush and broad leaf trees leads to the expansive evergreen dead zones that are basically devoid of wildlife. I am mainly speaking about what they’re doing on the west side of the mountains, I find these signs at nearly all new cuts over here. They do it during the summer when most people aren’t out in the logging areas.

That is a constant in n.e.wa., also.  Who owns investment portfolios of the major timber companies would probably shock us all, but its about deleting vegetation that competes with the timber companies profits.  A lot like monsanto, big pharm, etc.  Huge voice from the timber industry.

[Buckhunter24]

I hear what your saying, and the hunter in me agrees. Realistically though regardless of who is plc, broadcast chemical treatments, aerial or hand application, are not going anywhere until alternative veg control methods can compete financially.

[bigtex]

I hear what your saying, and the hunter in me agrees. Realistically though regardless of who is plc, broadcast chemical treatments, aerial or hand application, are not going anywhere until alternative veg control methods can compete financially.

You have DNR who is essentially the state logging company trying to maximize profit with their trees so they spray the brush which eliminates wildlife food/cover. Then you have WDFW trying to improve wildlife numbers/habitat.

Two state agencies, both natural resources oriented, completely different missions which often collide.

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[BearCreekCookBook]

I reject that the DNR is the state logging company. They are responsible for NATURAL RESOURCES that includes wildlife, fish, berries, mushrooms, minerals, water and soil quality. Yes, there is overlap with other departments, the Public Lands Commissioner should be working to get these departments working together instead of constantly campaigning for more fire fighting money. The reason we have a forest fire problem is they put out every fire for 100 years. So how is continuing to put out forest fires a solution? Fire refreshes the land, unless structures are threatened, let it burn. Hilary is just using this as a step in her political career, she wants to be governor. Time for a change.

[Buckhunter24]

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[BearCreekCookBook]

Thanks for posting that balance sheet, interesting to look at, not all values are measured in dollars and cents. I am very pro logging when done in a sensible manner.

[Buckhunter24]

I get what you're saying about values beyond dollars. But the trust lands are meant to be managed for dollars within the guidelines of Washington Forest Practices.

https://www.dnr.wa.gov/node/268

[Tbar]

Veg management is one of the toughest dilemmas faced by land managers regardless of purpose. You aren't going to see a political cure. You'd be complaining about blackberries if there wasn't chemical treatments.

[Lucky1]

Hilary Franz is Inslee lite. If you want the same kind of government leadership we have now go ahead and re-elect her.
I will vote for Sue Kuehl Pederson

http://www.chronline.com/news/commissioner-of-public-lands-hilary-franz-unveils-climate-resilience-plan/article_72f73428-5507-11ea-9d23-67b58977bca4.html

[follow maggie]

I have not seen any issues with Franz.  DNR is still working on fires and logging, access is still good and there hasn't been any talk about liquidations or public ground.  She has my vote this year.

Some people see the D behind her name and are automatically turned off. But honestly, the public and DNR employees haven't seen a difference between her and previous Public Lands Commissioners who had a R behind their names. Honestly, in current times the biggest task/role the Commissioner has now has to do with wildland fire management (on state lands and state fire protected lands) than anything else.

I don’t dislike her because she’s a democrat as you suggest. I have personal experience with her, and in my experience she’s petty, very arrogant, dishonest, mean spirited and untrustworthy. She has no problem lying to your face and doing the exact opposite of what she said as soon as you turn around. She has no problem telling to stay quiet and in your place if she thinks she has more money than you.