Draw Question

[B.G.hunter]

tony washington uses a point multiplier system so if you have never put in you will have 1 point and 1 ticket in the drawing, if you have 2 you get 4 in the drawing, 3 you will get 9 tickets, 4 you will get 16 tickets and so on.

[tony04]

ohh ok. man, i wish i would have started putting in for permits years ago

[Bob33]

Washington's system allows four hunt choices.  When an applicant's name is drawn, the computer checks each of the four choices in order.  First choice: is a tag available?  If yes, allocate a permit .  If not, check the second choice: is a tag available? If yes, allocate a permit.  This process continues through all hunt choices.

If someone applies for four hunt choices, he will appear as an applicant for each of the four hunts.  However, if he is drawn on my first choice, he is obviously out of the running for the second through fourth choices.  If you read the reports you can see the number of applicants "drawn for another hunt".

As noted Washington squares the number of points, which gives applicants with more points exponentially greater chances of being drawn. An applicant with four points has 4x6 (16) names in the hat.  An applicant with 10 points has 100 names in the hat.

You can draw the first year with 1 point.  You just typically have a lower chance than someone with more points, depending on the hunt.   There are some hunts with fewer applicants than permits, so you have a 100% chance regardless of points.

The number that is missing is the average number of points for all applicants for a particular hunt.

[buckhorn2]

If you put in for 4 choices and get drawn for the say 3rd choice do you lose all your points or do you lose your points only if you get drawn for your first choice.

[bobcat]

You lose your points if drawn for any of your choices, so don't apply for any hunt that you don't REALLY want.

[Red Dawg]

we are not like wyoming or oregon. If you get drawn for anything you loose your points. I wish we would go to a preference point system.

[B.G.hunter]

that's why i think washington should change it to 2 choices instead of 4. i am constantly talking to people who have drawn an area and they have no idea how or where to hunt.  they are taking good tags away from people who are trying to draw them with little or no success over many years.  leaving the people who drew the tag unhappy because they had a poor quality of hunt.

[Slider]

bob33 you have a typo!!!

 An applicant with four points has 4x6 (16) names in the hat.  An applicant with 10 points has 100 names in the hat.

It should be  4x4 is 16 chances.

[bobcat]

Slider,

I noticed that too, but he still got the right answer.

[7mag.]

Slider,

I noticed that too, but he still got the right answer.

I hated showing my work in school. As long as I got the right answer, who cares how I got there? 

[Up a Creek]

I think it would be better if we awarded extra tags like the ones given to hunter ed instructors for people who turn in poachers. I know of a guide who got his 10 points from turning someone in and drew the Little Natchees 2 times in 4 years it really does make it much harder for the average Joe hunter to draw good hunts.