New Moose rules

[luvtohnt]

Ya no kidding. The MH guys can draw, take a moose, and still retain their points. As I understand it since I have already drawn a moose tag, I should be able to take the MH program now and get the chance to take another. I had no interest in the program but if it means I can get another moose hunt you can bet your ass I will be doing it now. Not the purpose of the program?, tough sh#@, they wrote the rules and I'm going to take advantage of it.

That will work, but the likeliness of being called to go hunt the "problem moose" is probably less than actually drawing a any moose tag!!

Everyone,
For those who don't know this drawing is simply to have your name placed on a list, and if a problem moose needs to be culled they will start at the top of the list and call applicants until someone can come take care of it. Any special permit designated with HM (hunt master, or person in charge of problem animals for the area) after it is this way.

Brandon

[Curly]

I guess they feel that no MH's would apply if they were to lose all their points if they were to draw a permit?  Like someone else said, I guess it is better than to pay for removal of the problem moose.

[Craig]

They should change the rules so if you are on the list a d they do call you then your points are gone and your done with moose in Wa. If they don't call then you keep your points.

[luvtohnt]

They should change the rules so if you are on the list a d they do call you then your points are gone and your done with moose in Wa. If they don't call then you keep your points.

So then what happens when you no longer have any MH applying for that tag? Go back to paying someone else to remove the problem animals? Wouldn't you rather see someone who lives and hunts in WA get the oppurtunity rather than incuring more cost to us as hunter? I surly would rather let the same guy kill multiple problem animals, rather than paying some out of state guy to do it. For example I have seen numerous times an outfit from Idaho pulling dogs around in Cle Elum. I saw them at a gas station one day and aked what was up. Their response was we are hired cat trackers here to get rid of a problem couger. Now I know there are numerous people in WA that own hounds that would have loved the oppurtunity to go after that cat. Plus it would have saved the WDFW about $5,000.

Brandon

[Craig]

I bet $20 you will never see a moose hunt with 0 people putting in for it. You can put any rules you want to and people will still apply for the moose hunt. 

[KNOPHISH]

+1 on Craigs last 2 posts. make it $200

[huntnphool]

For those who don't know this drawing is simply to have your name placed on a list,

Thats just BS if you ask me. Why have 20 tags available then? If its because the first person on the list may decline, NOT LIKELY!!!!!, then they go to the next person, again BS.

I have a better solution, how about making a list starting with the 20,000 applicants that didnt draw that year? I bet any and all of them would jump at the chance.

No luv2hunt, don't even get it twisted, this is just an excuse to get the squeaky wheel what they want and its absolute BS in my not so humble opinion.

[billythekidrock]

For those who don't know this drawing is simply to have your name placed on a list,

Thats just BS if you ask me. Why have 20 tags available then? If its because the first person on the list may decline, NOT LIKELY!!!!!, then they go to the next person, again BS.

I have a better solution, how about making a list starting with the 20,000 applicants that didnt draw that year? I bet any and all of them would jump at the chance.

No luv2hunt, don't even get it twisted, this is just an excuse to get the squeaky wheel what they want and its absolute BS in my not so humble opinion.

I think the amount of tags has to do more with the amount of mortality and how they justify all tags.
Normally these types of hunts require the hunter to be available at the drop of a hat, typically while the animal is in the damage area.

Take their points and only wave the "lifetime" requirement if they harvest a cow.

Believe me, I don't think it is right either.
And that is coming from a MH member.

[Dansk]

I've drawn these masterhunter tags and was on the HM "list" for Elk.  I talked to the WDFW about the process after they notified me- i'd pretty much consider these hunts a waste of time.  BTK is right- you have to be available when they actually call- so if you've got a 9-5, or are a west-sider on an east-side list, you can forget it- by the time you get there, game might be over.  The dept just needs someone out there to pull the trigger at the problem animal- hence the list... they just keep calling down until help arrives.  That was the last HM tag I applied for- points or no.

Maybe give it to youth hunters, disabled, or seniors?  

[Up a Creek]

I've drawn these masterhunter tags and was on the HM "list" for Elk.  I talked to the WDFW about the process after they notified me- I'd pretty much consider these hunts a waste of time.  BTK is right- you have to be available when they actually call- so if you've got a 9-5, or are a west-sider on an east-side list, you can forget it- by the time you get there, game might be over.  The dept just needs someone out there to pull the trigger at the problem animal- hence the list... they just keep calling down until help arrives.  That was the last HM tag I applied for- points or no.

Maybe give it to youth hunters, disabled, or seniors?  

[I've drawn MH hunts for elk and have never been called either. It seems a lot of people  are getting worried about nothing, I dont think the total amount of moose tages availible to the general puplic should be lowered though.

As for youth disabled or seinors I have no problem with that, unless you have a kid get too excided and make a mistake in someones neiborhood. It would be good to have the hunt master oversee such hunts   /quote]

[boneaddict]

Why couldn't this be the same as Wyomings Bison.   You pay 7 bucks to be put on a bison list.  They start at the top and start calling.  I was 72nd last year but never got a call.  If you do get called you have to pony up 2,000(as a NR) and be there to shoot a bison.   Kinda along the same lines as hunphool was saying I believe. 

[Bob33]

"OK so even if you harvested a cow you cannot even apply again ??"

That depends on whether the cow was killed in an "any moose" or "antlerless only" hunt:

"Who May Apply:
Anyone with the EXCEPTION of those who have harvested a moose in
Washington. An individual may only harvest one moose during their lifetime
(waived for hunters who have harvested a moose in an antlerless only hunt,
master hunter hunts, and raffle and auction hunts)."