Master Hunters VOICE LOUD AND CLEAR!!!

[bornforhorns]

I don't question what they've done to earn that title, honestly,good for you.  But, I can see several hunts... that were quality hunts, where someone with a loud voice representing them stole it from the general public.  ie: Peshastin Archery bull permits. 

It now is a Master Hunters hunt listed as a damage control hunt with only 6 permits instead of the usual 15 given to archery hunters AND THEY GET TO USE ANY FRICKING WEAPON FOR A ABOUT 5 MONTHS, INCLUDING THE RUT!!!!!!!!  There goes the entire mature bull population for that hunt!!!

[bornforhorns]

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I see a new Master hunter hunt for moose which looks to be a late damage hunt but if drawn their OIL will be waived. I think that's BS. I think they could change it to not waived if not successful in harvest as I also see if drawn WDFW may not call if no nuisance reports are made. But if you do get your moose yer done. This is a pretty hard draw & can see a Master hunter taking multiple moose over the years when guys like me have been putting in for over 20 years. I think I remember this being on the proposals & I voted against it. Maybe set up a damage list like Montana, When they get a nuisance report they call who's on the list.

ANOTHER ONE OF THE HUNTS I WAS TALKING ABOUT FROM THE OTHER BIG GAME FORUM, I THINK KNOBFISH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT POSTED IT.  BS!!!!!!!!!!

[Crunchy]

Well even the MH have to get drawn for it, and then you have to get the call from WDFW allowing you to hunt it.  I wouldnt mind that hunt, but will keep that permit idea in my back pocket.  Plenty of others I am intersted in.

[bbarnes]

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 HOW ABOUT THE PUMAS PLAIN'S TAG AT MOUNT SAINT HELEN'S THIS IS FEDRAL LAND AND SHOULD BE ACCESSABLE TO ANYONE WHO PAY'S TAX .THIS IS NOTHING LESS THAN DESCRIMANATION TO THE 200 THOUSAND PLUS HUNTERS WHO BUY TAG'S IN THIS STATE. THERE NEED'S TO BE A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT OVER THIS.B BARNES KEEPING PUBLIC LANDS PUBLIC FOR EVERYONE NOT JUST STATE EMPLOYEES WHO TAKE THE COURSE ONLINE AT WORK WHILE WE PAY THERE WAGE.

[Crunchy]

I dont see a huge problem with it, but maybe its because I took the MH course.  I might feel different if I had not, and some prime ground that I love to hunt was taken away from me.

[Cascade_Sherpa]

In 20 years you will have to be certified like a master hunter to hunt elk anywhere in this state.

I agree with the previous posts.  The folks in charge in Olympia, seem to have a grand vision..... and it appears to not include the interests of hunters. The MH program I feel is flawed in many ways.  One of the "Damage" hunts in the Nooksack unit involved removing several 5-6 month pregnant cow elk; with any weapon choice, in January and February.  Besides the fact that the animals are at their weakest point in the late winter, and pregnant.  The "Master Hunter" who was involved is a co-worker; he was happy as a clam to walk out in a field, plug a couple elk, and have a tractor load them into his pickup..... all with the game warden in tow.  Just doesn't seem ethical to me.

[Crunchy]

That doesnt sound ethical to me either.  Some of it I agree with and others I dont.

[BULLZ-i]

25 YEARS...   , I SURE HOPE WE ALL STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY

[furbearer365]

IF THEY ARE SUCH MASTERS WHY THE HELL DO THEY NEED SO MANY MORE HUNTING OPPORTUNITIES THAN THE PUBLIC.  IF THEY ARE MASTERS OF THIS DOMAIN, THEN THEY SHOULDN'T NEED 5 MONTHS THE KILL AN ELK OR DEER.  THERE IS NO WAY I WOULD EVEN TRY TO BECOME ONE FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT I THINK THE WHOLE THING IS BS.  GET RID OF THE MASTER HUNTERS 

[Crunchy]

IF THEY ARE SUCH MASTERS WHY THE HELL DO THEY NEED SO MANY MORE HUNTING OPPORTUNITIES THAN THE PUBLIC.  IF THEY ARE MASTERS OF THIS DOMAIN, THEN THEY SHOULDN'T NEED 5 MONTHS THE KILL AN ELK OR DEER.  THERE IS NO WAY I WOULD EVEN TRY TO BECOME ONE FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT I THINK THE WHOLE THING IS BS.  GET RID OF THE MASTER HUNTERS 

Why not reward those who did a little extra then what "most" other people do?  Maybe Master Hunter is a bad name for it, but its just a title and thats it.  I dont know of anyone walking around bragging about being a Master Hunter....

[furbearer365]

Call it what you want but i still think it is a sham.  Why would someone who loves hunting enough to "do extra" get to hunt more.  I do plenty of stuff to help out, but I am not going to capitalize on being able to hunt more just because I do what everyone should do anyway.  I help where i can just to help and do my part, I don't need to chase the already overhunted elk herds around for 6 months.  So you really think that the elk and deer should suffer that badly just because someone picked up trash.  Why should our game take the blunt of the WDFW.  Just my opinion but to each his own.  Master hunter seasons begin in August and some are still going on in January.  How the hell are the elk going to thrive and reproduce when hunted that long. GARBAGE

[billythekidrock]

Call it what you want but i still think it is a sham.  Why would someone who loves hunting enough to "do extra" get to hunt more.  I do plenty of stuff to help out, but I am not going to capitalize on being able to hunt more just because I do what everyone should do anyway.  I help where i can just to help and do my part, I don't need to chase the already overhunted elk herds around for 6 months.  So you really think that the elk and deer should suffer that badly just because someone picked up trash.  Why should our game take the blunt of the WDFW.  Just my opinion but to each his own.  Master hunter seasons begin in August and some are still going on in January.  How the hell are the elk going to thrive and reproduce when hunted that long. GARBAGE

In many of these areas there wouldn't even be any hunting with out the MH program.

[huntnphool]

  I think most of you read my moose hunting thread from last season and know how many moose I saw during that hunt. In total I saw well over 100 cow moose in the two months off and on that I was out there. As I posted in that thread all but 2 of those cows had calves and there were dozens of bulls that were past on as well. The part of the new regs that I find intriguing is the overall reduction in moose permits this year even though it was clear that the numbers are increasing. If this was done to accommodate a MH hunt I would be seriously upset if I was one of you guys that have been applying.

MHThis is a nuisance hunt administered by a WDFW designated hunt master. Only master hunters may apply. These hunts will not affect accumulated points; and any weapon may
be used. Successful applicants will be contacted on an as-needed basis to help with specific sites of nuisance moose activity in designated areas. Not all successful applicants will be
contacted in any given year.

  Nuisance? Really? Give me a break!!! There may be 1 or 2 moose out there that are a nuisance to farms but 20? Again give me a break!!! I will be willing to bet anyone that out of those 20 tags not one cow is removed. Are you telling me that it will be only bulls that are creating the nuisance, because more than likely it will be only bulls tagged.

  The idea that they reduced the number of tags for permit applicants just to accommodate the"Master Hunters" really pisses me off, and I've already drawn my tag and can't apply again.

[Crunchy]

Seems like some of you have valid points.   And others the glass is always half empty.  I am not the one that designed the program and dont think that I am a better hunter than the next guy (maybe luckier).  As far as the extended seasons are concerned, who knows why they have it set up like that.  I'm a working stiff like the rest of you folks and would never have that much time to hunt (sad), and if I did and it took that long to kill an elk, I'd have to return that fancy badge they sent me.  Lets all be real for a minute.  Someone in the WDFW came up with the program idea (probably stolen from another state) and decided to implement it.  i doubt it brings any additional revenue to the state, so I would like to think there are some valid reasons for doing so. 

[huntnphool]

I would like to think there are some valid reasons for doing so.

Squeaky wheel gets the grease!!!!