This is what i postedHOW ABOUT THE PUMAS PLAIN'S TAG AT MOUNT SAINT HELEN'S THIS IS FEDRAL LAND AND SHOULD BE ACCESSABLE TO ANYONE WHO PAY'S TAX .THIS IS NOTHING LESS THAN DESCRIMANATION TO THE 200 THOUSAND PLUS HUNTERS WHO BUY TAG'S IN THIS STATE. THERE NEED'S TO BE A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT OVER THIS.B BARNES KEEPING PUBLIC LANDS PUBLIC FOR EVERYONE NOT JUST STATE EMPLOYEES WHO TAKE THE COURSE ONLINE AT WORK WHILE WE PAY THERE WAGE.
If the land owner want"s the wildlife off there property number 1 DON'T BUILD WHERE THE WILDLIFE LIVE'S.Number 2 give a person who ask permission a chance to hunt the property.Number 3 with the money the WDFW pays out to these land owners, it would be cheaper to pay for a fence and build it to keep the animals out.Finally number 4 if the program taught ethics, these M H wouldn't be hunting these animals at this time of year because it's not fair chase.Get a clue people hunting is now a Hobie not a way of life, or to say guess what i shot three elk and deer this year.
Let's talk some reality here for instance Weyco wants wildlife off there property.If they were forced by the lawmakers to create habitat and meadow areas for these animals,and quit spraying down the land with chemicals comparable to ajent orange they wouldn't need control hunts.The timber owners need to realize that resource is becoming worthless,times have changed. We in the construction trades are using different building methods and materials.What damage are the animals causing who was there first and who lost controll of the recourse in the first place.Where else in the U S A do they have this type of M H program anywhere? Does this program take into consideration people of lesser intelligence handicapped or hearing impaired.The WDFW mission statement says ensure effective use of current and future financial resources in order to meet the needs of the state's fish and wildlife resource for
the benefit of the public.How is the M H program benefiting the public because the public is all off us not 1280 out of 277,000 hunters in this state.Ive also heard rumors that the deer and elk in the state of washington,will be opening a casino soon because they are loosing there land just like the Indians. :stirthepot:Does this get closer to the point,do M H have a have more rights to Federal land than other tax payers.B Barnes keeping the public land public.
Billy the point I'm trying to make here is it discriminates against all of us sportsman.
Everyone isn't eligible for this program,and myself i promote equal opportunity.The WDFW will sell hunting licences to felons, but they cant be a part of this.WE all pay taxes but we all cant hunt the same places,to me this is turning into some private
hunting ranch.I don't think that hunters as a hole support this. :bdid:WE as outdoor
people should promote all of the ethics and rules,and educate each other.Its Hard to support this program, when the state tax payers own the animals.Myself and my group have spent thousands of dollars,giving out t shirts ,stickers putting floats in parades
and putting on tours for law makers to show the problems in the state, and to raise awareness of the problems were facing.B Barnes keeping the public lands public and the wildlife.
Your still not addressing the discrimination of the program against 277.000 hunters.Hunting Federal land that everyone should be able to hunt.Also isn't picking up the woods every outdoorsmans responsibility.This is nothing but a free labor pool for the state to have the M H Volunteering, while they the WDFW do nothing and get paid with benefits from our tax dollars.Last but not least when in the woods hunting you had better know the rules and regs or prepare to have the book thrown at you.
B Barnes keeping the public lands public.
M H you still have not addressed the issue of hunting on Federal land,the program was set up for damage issues and private property issues.It's turned into a reward program its unethical and theres no fair chase.I agree with furbearer 365 about the problem's at mt saint helen's it is overpursuit.The problems lie with The WDFW have they talked to the M H, about improving there image with the public.Let's talk a little biology i personally helped count the dead elk last year on the mud flow.The volunteers cut the femur bones looked in them,and then they would say yep they died of starvation.To me that left many unanswered questions #1 there were no predators eating these animals #2 The smelled funny #3 there were no skin,blood,urine,organ or any other samples taken.You would have thought there would be a toxicology test,taken with the timber company's spraying chemicals.Let's now talk law enforcement myself and many members of my group,have made countless trip over the last 3 years to Olimpia, to support them and try to get more dollars.Our volunteer hours are in the ten's of thousands,doing projects for the Forest Service the DNR and WDFW over the years.This was the right thing to do,and we certainly didn't need any reward or special privilege.Did i mention i spent out pocket over the last 2 years,over 10,000 dollars feeding the animals we all enjoy seeing and hunting.Still not asking for special privileges or extra hunting opportunity's.BBarnes keeping public lands public.
Since i have been involved on this web site,and by the way IT'S A GREAT ONE i have tried to raise awareness.Also i have tried to let outdoorsman know of upcoming events things that are affecting our opportunity's and getting people engaged so our opportunity's aren't taken from us.The problem i see is united we stand and divided we fall.What I'm trying to say is opportunity is going away and no one wants to help out theres no team work or togetherness.Its iii or me me me well theres no i in team and
there will be opportunity,if we continue to look out only for our self's.You've got to think past yourself and include everyone else,my way of thinking is EVERYONE should have the same opportunities that i have had.The M H program should be like a eagle scout in the boy scouts, there no extras just a self satisfaction to you archived something that most thought couldn't be done.My hats off to the over achievers in life,that's something that i have personally chosen thoughout my life to be.In closing I'm still not and wont ever ask for opportunities over others because i choose to stand united BBarnes keeping public lands public.
Back to my point THINK PAST YOURSELF.
This subject seems to be getting allot of attention, now all someone needs to do is post all the opportunity's.I want to see this years reg opportunity's posted then the real debate will follow.Post the unit the time allowed, time of year and total days the
M H get verse the rest of the 277,000 hunters paying the bills here.B Barnes keeping the public lands public and still not asking for any extra opportunity's
P.S. we need to hear the stories
I would still like to know why the M H gets, to hunt the pumas plains and others don't?
I would also like to point out that i have been respectfull of others on this site.Futher more any one who knows me would vouce for the dollars spent ,and the efforts that have been put foward.As far as ethics go check out my website.As for blowing hot air i would like to say i brougt some great points to the table and recignized people for there accomplisments.B Barnes keeping the public lands public and still not asking for any extra opportunity's. 
Link:
http://www.mtsainthelensrescue.com/
