3rd shot fliers

[Magnum_Willys]

Its always the last shot in a great group that goes to heck.   No matter whether 3,4 or 5 shots.   With only 3 shots tough to tell - might be the second shot is the flier which gave you a good first two shots ? 

[Ingwe]

I like to shoot 3 shot groups with a couple minutes between shots just to see what a gun can do. But I also like to shoot 3 shot groups fast with no cooling like shooting at an animal to see what the gun will do

[Alchase]

Its always the last shot in a great group that goes to heck.   No matter whether 3,4 or 5 shots.   With only 3 shots tough to tell - might be the second shot is the flier which gave you a good first two shots ? 

This is my problem, and yes I narrowed it down to myself not the gun, LOL.

[7mmfan]

Its always the last shot in a great group that goes to heck.   No matter whether 3,4 or 5 shots.   With only 3 shots tough to tell - might be the second shot is the flier which gave you a good first two shots ?

Right? I've considered that as well. To be frank the scope on that gun coupled with the astigmatism in my shooting eye make it difficult for me to feel confident in getting great groups. At 100 yards the crosshairs completely cover the 1" circle I'm shooting at. So I know i'm in the zone, but don't know to what scale. My 7 mag with a much higher magnification is infinitely more user friendly. May just be time for an upgrade.

[HawkCreek]

Are you positive it's not you? I do something on my 3rd shot that always screws things up. I can put two shots touching, screw up the third shot and put the 4 and 5th shots touching the first two. I've been that way for years. Cant figure out what I'm doing different. And it's always the third shot. Weird.

[Karl Blanchard]

High flier is usually do to inadequate rear support/poor cheek pressure. Left right fliers are often due to ones grip. Not saying that's the case but it often is. Small groups are really hard to shoot consistently, especially with lighter weight rifles. On the internet evwryone shoots sub quarter minute every time but in the real world if a factory gun holds moa every time you get behind it, you're doing pretty darn good 

[NWShooter]

In my experience. More often than not, it’s a bedding issue or a lack of bedding. Free floating barrel in both cases. I have had non bedded rifles with free floated barrels do it. Had them bedded and the problem went away. I have had smiths do crap/stressed bedding jobs and had the third round flyer issue. Had the action bedded properly and the third round flyer went away. I have had ultra light #1 contour barrels do it no matter what.

[mountainman]

What gun/caliber are you shooting? If a light contour/high velocity clambering you can be looking at barrel heating. Shoot 2, let barrel completely cool, then shoot 3rd shot. If tight, then it would be barrel heating. My titanium Browning 7-08, Adorondak in Creedmore, and probably 50% of the lightweight/featherweight I have owned, throw the 3rd shot on a warm barrel. But it only takes 1! First shots count👍

[7mmfan]

It's a very lightweight 7mm-08. It's been bedded and floated. I think I answered my question today. Shot 2 shot groups, 3 minutes between each shot and 10 minutes between each group. Fliers stopped. These were two different groups with a new aim point.

[7mmfan]

And, it can definitely be me. I shoot my heavy ruger 7 mag like this every time I go out, but the lightweight rifle is definitely more challenging.

[mountainman]

There you go! Shouldn't take more than 2 shots anyway👍 glad it worked out 7mmfan!

[Magnum_Willys]

Time for seating test.  Current load +.005, -.005, -.010 , -.015
3 to 4 shots each.

[7mmfan]

Time for seating test.  Current load +.005, -.005, -.010 , -.015
3 to 4 shots each.

I did this last week and accuracy dropped everytime I got further from the lands. I think I'm settled on this load now.

[Bango skank]

Time for seating test.  Current load +.005, -.005, -.010 , -.015
3 to 4 shots each.

I did this last week and accuracy dropped everytime I got further from the lands. I think I'm settled on this load now.

If youre getting groups like this, youre set imo.  Better than most folks get in reality.  If you have to mess with anything, just dial your scope a few clicks left so you get his finger next time 

[7mmfan]

Time for seating test.  Current load +.005, -.005, -.010 , -.015
3 to 4 shots each.

I did this last week and accuracy dropped everytime I got further from the lands. I think I'm settled on this load now.

If youre getting groups like this, youre set imo.  Better than most folks get in reality.  If you have to mess with anything, just dial your scope a few clicks left so you get his finger next time 

That gun doesn't get messed with at all! It's as dialed as dialed can be. It was my other rifle that is a constant thorn. We're beginning to understand each other better now.