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[sagerat]

Play by the same rules. Same hunting seasons, open the gates they are given keys to, same fishing seasons, allow any American to open a casino. No more special treatment.

[trophyhunt]

Play by the same rules. Same hunting seasons, open the gates they are given keys to, same fishing seasons, allow any American to open a casino. No more special treatment.

you are such a racist!!!   


    Wouldn’t that be a change for the best!

[sagerat]

Maybe some day... something has to give at some point

[dvolmer]

I hate to bring this up, but we pay for all of this!  Every Penny!!  How much are you paying each year for your Washington license and all your special permit applications and so on as you watch your quota numbers tank into the toilet.  Ask the natives how much their licenses cost.  Zero!  All the biologists and all the enforcement you are paying for and getting close to nothing in return.  Yes the natives have their own biologists, enforcement, and so on but your tax dollars are paying for all of that too. It is going to get way worse before it ever gets better.  Your quality and bull quotas are going to get lower and lower until it hits close to zero (actually that has already happened).  I would say that eventually it will all have to give, but not in this liberal state.  Look at the elk section in the forum this year.  Usually in late October/early November the section was full of quality tag holders and Bull tag holders success pictures.  This year it had a couple only.  Most of the quality units and bull units slashed their tag numbers in the last 5 years and most of the super so-called lucky guys that drew a tag ate them.  But we as a group of hunters have given into the bonus point nightmare that makes you think you just cant get out because you have so many points when actually as your points increase, your draw odds are going down but you are hooked mentally thinking you cant walk away.  So you all will still put your money up and fund this craziness and complain along the way until everything goes belly up!! Just my two cents 

Like I have said before, The American Western Hunter will soon be a thing of the past unless you are very wealthy.  It wont happen overnight but I sure would hate to see things in 20 to 30 years from now the way it is currently going.  40 years ago I was hunting and we have been moving this way ever since.  For instance, all of the old time ranch owners that felt like they were stewards of the land have passed away and all of their ranches have been taken over by their kids or sold to corporate ranches and all of my 10 separate land owners that I used to hunt on have turned into hunting clubs or leased hunting.  If you wanted to hunt these properties now you have to pay a bunch and the cost is going up and up yearly.  In some ways technology has improved hunting but in the long haul it will be its demise.  40 years ago natives were hunting but all they wanted was a fat cow a year to feed their families.  Now with the demand for big bulls and trophy hunting that has been pushed ever harder with all of your favorite outdoor channel shows, pod casts, and so forth it has increased the desire for the native to hunt big bulls.  Those antlers are worth a ton

[sagerat]

Agreed, things don’t look good. Very depressing when you stand back and think about it all.

[trophyhunt]

I hate to bring this up, but we pay for all of this!  Every Penny!!  How much are you paying each year for your Washington license and all your special permit applications and so on as you watch your quota numbers tank into the toilet.  Ask the natives how much their licenses cost.  Zero!  All the biologists and all the enforcement you are paying for and getting close to nothing in return.  Yes the natives have their own biologists, enforcement, and so on but your tax dollars are paying for all of that too. It is going to get way worse before it ever gets better.  Your quality and bull quotas are going to get lower and lower until it hits close to zero (actually that has already happened).  I would say that eventually it will all have to give, but not in this liberal state.  Look at the elk section in the forum this year.  Usually in late October/early November the section was full of quality tag holders and Bull tag holders success pictures.  This year it had a couple only.  Most of the quality units and bull units slashed their tag numbers in the last 5 years and most of the super so-called lucky guys that drew a tag ate them.  But we as a group of hunters have given into the bonus point nightmare that makes you think you just cant get out because you have so many points when actually as your points increase, your draw odds are going down but you are hooked mentally thinking you cant walk away.  So you all will still put your money up and fund this craziness and complain along the way until everything goes belly up!! Just my two cents 

Like I have said before, The American Western Hunter will soon be a thing of the past unless you are very wealthy.  It wont happen overnight but I sure would hate to see things in 20 to 30 years from now the way it is currently going.

wow, you nailed it!  I’m one of those high point holders that can’t disconnect myself from that point system.  Brutal honesty!!  And especially agree with the cost, even taxidermy work is getting STUPID! They can charge what they want, turn customers away, and charge 1,200 to 1,300 for a damn hair on tan for a bear!!  That used to be 300-400 dollars!  The taxi’s have waaaaay too many customers now, it’s a shame. I’ve been saying it for the past 13 years, once I zero out, I’m done. I now sit at 26 points, it’s like a heroin addiction.

[dvolmer]

I hate to bring this up, but we pay for all of this!  Every Penny!!  How much are you paying each year for your Washington license and all your special permit applications and so on as you watch your quota numbers tank into the toilet.  Ask the natives how much their licenses cost.  Zero!  All the biologists and all the enforcement you are paying for and getting close to nothing in return.  Yes the natives have their own biologists, enforcement, and so on but your tax dollars are paying for all of that too. It is going to get way worse before it ever gets better.  Your quality and bull quotas are going to get lower and lower until it hits close to zero (actually that has already happened).  I would say that eventually it will all have to give, but not in this liberal state.  Look at the elk section in the forum this year.  Usually in late October/early November the section was full of quality tag holders and Bull tag holders success pictures.  This year it had a couple only.  Most of the quality units and bull units slashed their tag numbers in the last 5 years and most of the super so-called lucky guys that drew a tag ate them.  But we as a group of hunters have given into the bonus point nightmare that makes you think you just cant get out because you have so many points when actually as your points increase, your draw odds are going down but you are hooked mentally thinking you cant walk away.  So you all will still put your money up and fund this craziness and complain along the way until everything goes belly up!! Just my two cents 

Like I have said before, The American Western Hunter will soon be a thing of the past unless you are very wealthy.  It wont happen overnight but I sure would hate to see things in 20 to 30 years from now the way it is currently going.

wow, you nailed it!  I’m one of those high point holders that can’t disconnect myself from that point system.  Brutal honesty!!  And especially agree with the cost, even taxidermy work is getting STUPID! They can charge what they want, turn customers away, and charge 1,200 to 1,300 for a damn hair on tan for a bear!!  That used to be 300-400 dollars!  The taxi’s have waaaaay too many customers now, it’s a shame. I’ve been saying it for the past 13 years, once I zero out, I’m done. I now sit at 26 points, it’s like a heroin addiction.

I'm right there with ya!  Its like being in an abusive marriage.  Cant leave because your in love with it all, while its kicking ya in the #$@#'s over and over again.  Last year I was lucky enough to draw my quality tag with 13 points.  This year I drew my bull tag with 14 points and my cow tag with 7 points.  So I am done with it all!!!  But the guy with a ton of points is like the guy trying to get off of Meth!  Easy to say but hard to do that is for sure and I wouldn't begrudge a guy for putting in for ever!  But man are we screwed!!!!

[emac]

How do you shoot a bull like that and then just hack the head off?

Because all they care about is the price of the antlers.  The hide shoulder mount don't mean poop.  What do you think the going rate on those antlers will be??

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[meatwhack]

Depends if it’s the beginning of the month or end of the month.

[idaho guy]

I hate to bring this up, but we pay for all of this!  Every Penny!!  How much are you paying each year for your Washington license and all your special permit applications and so on as you watch your quota numbers tank into the toilet.  Ask the natives how much their licenses cost.  Zero!  All the biologists and all the enforcement you are paying for and getting close to nothing in return.  Yes the natives have their own biologists, enforcement, and so on but your tax dollars are paying for all of that too. It is going to get way worse before it ever gets better.  Your quality and bull quotas are going to get lower and lower until it hits close to zero (actually that has already happened).  I would say that eventually it will all have to give, but not in this liberal state.  Look at the elk section in the forum this year.  Usually in late October/early November the section was full of quality tag holders and Bull tag holders success pictures.  This year it had a couple only.  Most of the quality units and bull units slashed their tag numbers in the last 5 years and most of the super so-called lucky guys that drew a tag ate them.  But we as a group of hunters have given into the bonus point nightmare that makes you think you just cant get out because you have so many points when actually as your points increase, your draw odds are going down but you are hooked mentally thinking you cant walk away.  So you all will still put your money up and fund this craziness and complain along the way until everything goes belly up!! Just my two cents 

Like I have said before, The American Western Hunter will soon be a thing of the past unless you are very wealthy.  It wont happen overnight but I sure would hate to see things in 20 to 30 years from now the way it is currently going.

wow, you nailed it!  I’m one of those high point holders that can’t disconnect myself from that point system.  Brutal honesty!!  And especially agree with the cost, even taxidermy work is getting STUPID! They can charge what they want, turn customers away, and charge 1,200 to 1,300 for a damn hair on tan for a bear!!  That used to be 300-400 dollars!  The taxi’s have waaaaay too many customers now, it’s a shame. I’ve been saying it for the past 13 years, once I zero out, I’m done. I now sit at 26 points, it’s like a heroin addiction.

 

Little off topic but many taxi are doing 300-400 max for hair on tan of bear hides. Whoever is charging 1300 is just ridiculous.  Be worth it for you to send to Idaho or maybe even just eastern wa. I picked one up this year was around 300  and it’s perfect

[trophyhunt]

I hate to bring this up, but we pay for all of this!  Every Penny!!  How much are you paying each year for your Washington license and all your special permit applications and so on as you watch your quota numbers tank into the toilet.  Ask the natives how much their licenses cost.  Zero!  All the biologists and all the enforcement you are paying for and getting close to nothing in return.  Yes the natives have their own biologists, enforcement, and so on but your tax dollars are paying for all of that too. It is going to get way worse before it ever gets better.  Your quality and bull quotas are going to get lower and lower until it hits close to zero (actually that has already happened).  I would say that eventually it will all have to give, but not in this liberal state.  Look at the elk section in the forum this year.  Usually in late October/early November the section was full of quality tag holders and Bull tag holders success pictures.  This year it had a couple only.  Most of the quality units and bull units slashed their tag numbers in the last 5 years and most of the super so-called lucky guys that drew a tag ate them.  But we as a group of hunters have given into the bonus point nightmare that makes you think you just cant get out because you have so many points when actually as your points increase, your draw odds are going down but you are hooked mentally thinking you cant walk away.  So you all will still put your money up and fund this craziness and complain along the way until everything goes belly up!! Just my two cents 

Like I have said before, The American Western Hunter will soon be a thing of the past unless you are very wealthy.  It wont happen overnight but I sure would hate to see things in 20 to 30 years from now the way it is currently going.

wow, you nailed it!  I’m one of those high point holders that can’t disconnect myself from that point system.  Brutal honesty!!  And especially agree with the cost, even taxidermy work is getting STUPID! They can charge what they want, turn customers away, and charge 1,200 to 1,300 for a damn hair on tan for a bear!!  That used to be 300-400 dollars!  The taxi’s have waaaaay too many customers now, it’s a shame. I’ve been saying it for the past 13 years, once I zero out, I’m done. I now sit at 26 points, it’s like a heroin addiction.

 

Little off topic but many taxi are doing 300-400 max for hair on tan of bear hides. Whoever is charging 1300 is just ridiculous.  Be worth it for you to send to Idaho or maybe even just eastern wa. I picked one up this year was around 300  and it’s perfect

ill pm you, but there is a taxi on here that quoted me 750 just to deflesh and pull the fingers out.

[dvolmer]

Depends if it’s the beginning of the month or end of the month.

Love it!!!!  Even though it is sad!  But oh so true!!!

[dilleytech]

I hate to bring this up, but we pay for all of this!  Every Penny!!  How much are you paying each year for your Washington license and all your special permit applications and so on as you watch your quota numbers tank into the toilet.  Ask the natives how much their licenses cost.  Zero!  All the biologists and all the enforcement you are paying for and getting close to nothing in return.  Yes the natives have their own biologists, enforcement, and so on but your tax dollars are paying for all of that too. It is going to get way worse before it ever gets better.  Your quality and bull quotas are going to get lower and lower until it hits close to zero (actually that has already happened).  I would say that eventually it will all have to give, but not in this liberal state.  Look at the elk section in the forum this year.  Usually in late October/early November the section was full of quality tag holders and Bull tag holders success pictures.  This year it had a couple only.  Most of the quality units and bull units slashed their tag numbers in the last 5 years and most of the super so-called lucky guys that drew a tag ate them.  But we as a group of hunters have given into the bonus point nightmare that makes you think you just cant get out because you have so many points when actually as your points increase, your draw odds are going down but you are hooked mentally thinking you cant walk away.  So you all will still put your money up and fund this craziness and complain along the way until everything goes belly up!! Just my two cents 

Like I have said before, The American Western Hunter will soon be a thing of the past unless you are very wealthy.  It wont happen overnight but I sure would hate to see things in 20 to 30 years from now the way it is currently going.

wow, you nailed it!  I’m one of those high point holders that can’t disconnect myself from that point system.  Brutal honesty!!  And especially agree with the cost, even taxidermy work is getting STUPID! They can charge what they want, turn customers away, and charge 1,200 to 1,300 for a damn hair on tan for a bear!!  That used to be 300-400 dollars!  The taxi’s have waaaaay too many customers now, it’s a shame. I’ve been saying it for the past 13 years, once I zero out, I’m done. I now sit at 26 points, it’s like a heroin addiction.

 

Little off topic but many taxi are doing 300-400 max for hair on tan of bear hides. Whoever is charging 1300 is just ridiculous.  Be worth it for you to send to Idaho or maybe even just eastern wa. I picked one up this year was around 300  and it’s perfect

ill pm you, but there is a taxi on here that quoted me 750 just to deflesh and pull the fingers out.

My last bear hide was 450$ including skinning feet and everything. That quote is ridiculous.

[trophyhunt]

My 2017 bear was still cheap, with a local taxi, not any more. I’m driving to Idaho Thursday to save a bunch of money, and I refuse to be extorted by local taxi’s.

[LDennis24]

Yeah I had a miniature bull hide tanned by a taxi up out of Davenport and it came back shaved too thin and almost tore in spots and I paid over $700 in the end. It was a rip off but I wanted the hide back as it was unique. Super soft hair.