Hey Snowmobliers and snow bikers pay attention

[jrebel]

Evergreen Alliance lobbies for expansions of motorized trails for non motorized users and also has a gathering that likes to build illegal trails. I love snitching on them when I come across new trails as I know they're illegal.

Can I rat them out for the amount of garbage left on the side of the mountain?  Who do you rat them out to?   What constitutes an illegal trail? 

[ghosthunter]

Here is a non motorized group in Wenatchee that wrecks the landscape and leaves trash everywhere.....all the while other user groups are not allowed to drive on exhausting roads.   Makes me sick. 

I believe they are out of Seattle... imagine that.  There is another sign that says they are partnering with USFS.....doesn’t anyone who pays taxes partner with USFS for public lands???

Yep

Set in our camp and watched groups of 20 or more riding ridges, in Thompson Ridge, and Coal creek area during modern deer. They were only up around Wolf creek in years past now they have groomed game trails 8 miles south. Disgusting the forest service and game Dept allow them to ride winter range till snow flies. Put up trail signs and e every thing.

[Dick in the Dirt]

What’s mvcc?

   Methow Valley Communist Council.

[Dick in the Dirt]

Pretty sure this is because of the fires that went through this year. 

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No fires in that area. If there was it would still be burning due to Pine Beadle kill.

[KFhunter]

Always kinda wanted to ride there, guess I snoozed



We still haven't gotten back that area closed for mountian caribou habitat....

[Southpole]

Pretty sure this is because of the fires that went through this year. 

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No fires in that area. If there was it would still be burning due to Pine Beadle kill.

That’s exactly why I was wondering why fires were mentioned as the cause of closure. If and when it does go up in smoke it’ll be a moon scape I would imagine since half the trees are dead as mentioned.

[horsehunter509]

This is a area that I snowmobile in several times a year. Definitely not any recent burns in the closure area

[follow maggie]

What’s mvcc?

   Methow Valley Communist Council.

 

[wolfbait]

Divide and conquer,  I talk to a guy the other day who was up in arms about the Twisp river closures under the guise of "restoration", closing several roads etc.. Now more closers for winter user groups. Back during the wolf fight I ask him why he didn't get his buddies together and help, his response was "wolves didn't affect him". I talk to him yesterday, he said we had to fight to keep these areas open< I said have at it, and I reminded him of the wolf fight and how he didn't give  then, but now he want everyone to fight for something that affects his fun.

Try getting public land user groups to come together to fight one cause, see where that gets you. We have already been down that dead end trail.

[bbarnes]

Isn't the. USFS MONTRA equal access for everyone ? Why are all groups of users against one and other ? People need to share the public lands and figure out how to get along !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[timberfaller]

Isn't the. USFS MONTRA equal access for everyone ? Why are all groups of users against one and other ? People need to share the public lands and figure out how to get along !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My guess is you don't understand the "people"(USFS) you have to deal with, especially those in the Methow and those in Portland which takes you clear back to "The Swamp"!!  MONEY is what the power brokers bow to, not the PEOPLE.  Its been transforming in the Methow since the mid 70's and became full blown by the 90's.

The 70's started with the Sierra Club then came the Aspen lawyers moving in and it all went down hill from there.  This current closure is no surprise.

[Caseyd]

The state snowmobile association didn’t know anything about this, the state parks department wasn’t consulted/notified that one of their snoparks was being shut down.

Forests circus is claiming they asked users in the area and didn’t receive pushback. The amount of pushback they have received is probably head turning.

Please call methow ranger at 509-996-4000 to express your concerns

[Buckhunter24]

Pretty bold and biased move shutting this area down for motorized use. What's the difference in avalanche risk this year compared to past years.

[Caseyd]

Pretty bold and biased move shutting this area down for motorized use. What's the difference in avalanche risk this year compared to past years.

Granted the season just starting but nothing.

With ski resorts operating on reduced capacity, everyone is trying to find alternative ways to get outside. Snowmobiles have been a hot commodity and time will tell but it appears we have tons of new participants. With that said I don’t think it’s the “snowmobilers” but the skier/snowboarders using snowmobiles to access backcountry lines in the area. The heli ski company doesn’t like people getting out into the same zone without using their services

[KFhunter]

2 sleds 2 dudes

Leave sled at bottom, ride double to top, ski to bottom rinse repeat.

Not a bad day!

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