Wolves federally delisted from Endangered species list

[LDennis24]

Anyone else see this finally taking effect?

https://www.endangeredspecieslawandpolicy.com/trump-administration-removes-gray-wolf-from-endangered#:~:text=On%20November%203%2C%202020%2C%20the,effect%20on%20January%204%2C%202021.

[pianoman9701]

Unfortunately, this will do nothing in WA to allow controlling their populations. Our Governor has been bought and sold by animal rights groups and will not allow the cuddly creatures to be harmed.

[buckfvr]

Unfortunately, this will do nothing in WA to allow controlling their populations. Our Governor has been bought and sold by animal rights groups and will not allow the cuddly creatures to be harmed.

Most likely to get worse before/if it ever gets better.

[LDennis24]

Is it illegal to pay a bounty for them to the natives? Like say we pool our money and offer to pay the tribes X amount of money for every wolf harvest photo... That way we are paying for a "photo" and nothing else... Right..... Right.... C'mon, let's do this! Lol Bone can help us start a photo contest where everyone's a winner!

[HillHound]

Not that it would matter if it was. Selling elk jerky is illegal and their elders don’t give a crap about them breaking that law. So why not.

[Platensek-po]

Not that it would matter if it was. Selling elk jerky is illegal and their elders don’t give a crap about them breaking that law. So why not.

I could be wrong on this but Im not sure its illegal for Native Americans to sell wild game meat. Part of their historic means of survival was the sale and barter of wild animals. I could be wrong tho.

Also dont be surprised if this gets overturned rather quickly once biden assumes the presidency. Since it was done through executive order it will most likely be overturned by executive order.

[pianoman9701]

Not that it would matter if it was. Selling elk jerky is illegal and their elders don’t give a crap about them breaking that law. So why not.

This thread is about wolves. If you want to start another thread to bash Natives, go ahead and see where it gets you.

[Wanttohuntmore]

So does this lessen the crime if one is killed in Washington?

[pianoman9701]

They're protected by state law. I would assume it's criminal, but it may be a civil penalty.

[nwwanderer]

I was in a WDFW wolf meeting where a native spoke on wolves.  Reported that they would protect their ungulate resource and take wolves.  The WDFW thanked him for his report and went on.

[HillHound]

Not that it would matter if it was. Selling elk jerky is illegal and their elders don’t give a crap about them breaking that law. So why not.

This thread is about wolves. If you want to start another thread to bash Natives, go ahead and see where it gets you.

No I do not intend to start a bashing thread. But I am pretty positive I have heard from other members that it is against the law for them to take game animals with the intent of selling them and that their elders agree it is but don’t want to push the subject or step on elk jerky’s toes. Correct me if I’m wrong and if so I will try to keep my mouth shut in the future. I’m glad rainier10 is buying up that property that way they don’t consider it free and unclaimed any more. Might be a bit of skewed info on WDFW’s research they are doing though considering his land is actually regulated by hunting seasons

[LDennis24]

None of that matters... They are profiting off of the photo contest, not the actual animal... C'mon follow along. Photo contest. Most dead wolves in one photo, cleanest looking dead wolf in a photo, biggest teeth of a dead wolf in a photo, most different colors of dead wolves in a photo... Etc etc...

[pianoman9701]

I was in a WDFW wolf meeting where a native spoke on wolves.  Reported that they would protect their ungulate resource and take wolves.  The WDFW thanked him for his report and went on.

As it should be. It's good that someone cares about our ungulates.

[Skyvalhunter]

Well it appears to me that the natives don't take as much initiative against wolves and grizzlies as one thinks. Seem to value them as sacred

[pianoman9701]

Well it appears to me that the natives don't take as much initiative against wolves and grizzlies as one thinks. Seem to value them as sacred

You sure paint "natives" with a broad stroke. Maybe you watch too many Kevin Costner movies. I know for a fact that the Colvilles have been shooting them regularly. I think the Yaks have, as well. They kill more than the WDFW does and without spending millions of our wildlife budget. I don't know about Grizzlies but most of the people promoting and protecting their return are white and living where it won't matter. How did this become an anti-Native thread? The people doing the damage here regarding wolves are all white and work in Olympia. Let's not point fingers at people who share our beliefs on the issue, people who actually take action.