Wolves federally delisted from Endangered species list

[10thmountainarcher]

Well it appears to me that the natives don't take as much initiative against wolves and grizzlies as one thinks. Seem to value them as sacred

You sure paint "natives" with a broad stroke. Maybe you watch too many Kevin Costner movies. I know for a fact that the Colvilles have been shooting them regularly. I think the Yaks have, as well. They kill more than the WDFW does and without spending millions of our wildlife budget. I don't know about Grizzlies but most of the people promoting and protecting their return are white and living where it won't matter. How did this become an anti-Native thread? The people doing the damage here regarding wolves are all white and work in Olympia.

You look at the quality of game coming off the Colville reservation, it’s obvious they are managing things right. The Rez Bucks and Bulls Instagram page clearly shows them harvesting wolves on the reservation.

[Caseyd]

So does this lessen the crime if one is killed in Washington?

Technically yes, it would no longer be a federal crime.

Falls on the state who has less resources (in theory). You’ve seen the city lately, imagine if hunters just did what they want.

[idaho guy]

Not that it would matter if it was. Selling elk jerky is illegal and their elders don’t give a crap about them breaking that law. So why not.

I could be wrong on this but Im not sure its illegal for Native Americans to sell wild game meat. Part of their historic means of survival was the sale and barter of wild animals. I could be wrong tho.

Also dont be surprised if this gets overturned rather quickly once biden assumes the presidency. Since it was done through executive order it will most likely be overturned by executive order.

 

  Unfortunately probably be reversed shortly

[pianoman9701]

Well it appears to me that the natives don't take as much initiative against wolves and grizzlies as one thinks. Seem to value them as sacred

You sure paint "natives" with a broad stroke. Maybe you watch too many Kevin Costner movies. I know for a fact that the Colvilles have been shooting them regularly. I think the Yaks have, as well. They kill more than the WDFW does and without spending millions of our wildlife budget. I don't know about Grizzlies but most of the people promoting and protecting their return are white and living where it won't matter. How did this become an anti-Native thread? The people doing the damage here regarding wolves are all white and work in Olympia. Let's not point fingers at people who share our beliefs on the issue, people who actually take action.

I may have read more into your statement than was meant. They may be sacred and or revered, but they're also hunted by some Natives and the success of the Colvilles and their wildlife management is a good example.

[Special T]

Is it illegal to pay a bounty for them to the natives? Like say we pool our money and offer to pay the tribes X amount of money for every wolf harvest photo... That way we are paying for a "photo" and nothing else... Right..... Right.... C'mon, let's do this! Lol Bone can help us start a photo contest where everyone's a winner!

What makes you think this isnt already happening on the DL?

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[bigtex]

They're protected by state law. I would assume it's criminal, but it may be a civil penalty.

Of course it's criminal. Heck, fishing without a license is a criminal offense.

Federal ESA violation = Class A Misdemeanor up to 1 year in jail and/or $100,000 fine
WA endangered species violation = Gross Misdemeanor up to 1 year in jail and/or $5,000 fine
 Second WA ES violation within five years = Class C Felony

[ne kid]

Everybody needs to quit blaming the wolf, and start blaming the real problem WDFW. Why do the Colvilles have such great herds because they dont have the WDFW managing them.

[Skyvalhunter]

Who's to say they really have great herds. The Yakima doesn't seem to.

[Special T]

Who's to say they really have great herds. The Yakima doesn't seem to.

People that have looked into it. They have actively  managed their herd for a long time. Comparing the Yakima and Colville is apples and oranges.

[KFhunter]

Yes, Colville has good herds and really involved game management.

Having known at lot of Colvilles and speaking with their head wildlife manager many times it took ahwile to wrap my head around the problems surrounding the Yakimas.

They seem to be the complete opposite of the Yakimas.

[KFhunter]

You cannot paint all tribes with the same brush, as they each are independent.

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[wolfbait]

Yes, Colville has good herds and really involved game management.

Having known at lot of Colvilles and speaking with their head wildlife manager many times it took ahwile to wrap my head around the problems surrounding the Yakimas.

They seem to be the complete opposite of the Yakimas.

Colville's were doing wolf control as far back as 2004, they like their hunting..