Northern Pike Bounty Lake Roosevelt

[Stein]

Am I the only one who thinks eating northern pikeminnow is gross?  Aren't they loaded with contaminants and mercury and it's advised not to do that?  Someone help me here.

Pikeminnow and northern pike are 2 different fish

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2 different bounty programs too.  Last I looked, the pikeminnow program was unlimited and a couple people at least were doing it full time.

They pay $5 for the first 25 you catch, then $6 up to 200 and $8 for every one after that.

[Chesterdog]

Am I the only one who thinks eating northern pikeminnow is gross?  Aren't they loaded with contaminants and mercury and it's advised not to do that?  Someone help me here.

Pikeminnow and northern pike are 2 different fish

I knew someone would set me straight.  Thanks Russ!

[jbeaumont21]

Might get better results by taking out cormorants and seals than spiny-ray fish 

[Russ McDonald]

Am I the only one who thinks eating northern pikeminnow is gross?  Aren't they loaded with contaminants and mercury and it's advised not to do that?  Someone help me here.

Pikeminnow and northern pike are 2 different fish

I knew someone would set me straight.  Thanks Russ!

Yeah I hear pikeminnow are terrible.

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[buckcanyonlodge]

As usual it only matters what certain groups think. If you ask me it's to late to keep them out of the lower Columbia...they are already there. They netted the shat out of the Pend Oreille for years and that didn't keep them from coming over Boundary Dam and populating Lake Roosevelt. If salmon are the only thing that matters why not take out ALL the dams and close all Columbia River salmon fishing. And as usual let's pit the salmon fishermen against the spiny-ray fishermen.. the division goes on and on... getting pretty old  ..over and out

I wish they would take out all the dams and shut down fishing. Not just on the Columbia either. Spiny-ray fish can be found just about everywhere in this country. Pacific salmon are not.

Pacific salmon are found from California thousands of miles north to Alaska. Agree spiny ray are just about everywhere but I am not fishing everywhere in the country. I have spiny ray fishing close to home. Why should I go to some other state around the country to fish for them ..Just like me saying if you want Pacific Salmon go to Alaska.

[Platensek-po]

As usual it only matters what certain groups think. If you ask me it's to late to keep them out of the lower Columbia...they are already there. They netted the shat out of the Pend Oreille for years and that didn't keep them from coming over Boundary Dam and populating Lake Roosevelt. If salmon are the only thing that matters why not take out ALL the dams and close all Columbia River salmon fishing. And as usual let's pit the salmon fishermen against the spiny-ray fishermen.. the division goes on and on... getting pretty old  ..over and out

I wish they would take out all the dams and shut down fishing. Not just on the Columbia either. Spiny-ray fish can be found just about everywhere in this country. Pacific salmon are not.

Pacific salmon are found from California thousands of miles north to Alaska. Agree spiny ray are just about everywhere but I am not fishing everywhere in the country. I have spiny ray fishing close to home. Why should I go to some other state around the country to fish for them ..Just like me saying if you want Pacific Salmon go to Alaska.

So you want to impact salmon because you want to be able
To fish for non native species close to home? Salmon are native to the Columbia. Those species can also be found in this state in waters not necessary for salmon. So again it’s about saving a native species  not about what’s convenient for you

[Stein]

It's hard to make an argument spiny fish are more valuable using any metric I can think of.  There is also the ESA issue that makes the decision easy.  It's hard to say because I appreciate the viewpoint, but it's not something we can do an "and" with, unfortunately it has to be an or.  If we can work on the 100 other problems salmon face, maybe sometime it could be an "and."

The predators with fins are pretty similar to the predators with legs issue, a population can only take so much pressure before it collapses.

[snake]

I grew up fishing Pike, we called them "Northerns" you couldn't tell the difference between a pike and a walleye when you're eating it.   Thanks for the info on the quota.  I think we need to try to keep them out of the lower Columbia for obvious reasons.  We used Spinner baits with a trailer hook, wire leaders and Rapalas.  seemed to do better casting than trolling, but both worked. Whats your guys go to for the Roosevelt pike.

[buckcanyonlodge]

As usual it only matters what certain groups think. If you ask me it's to late to keep them out of the lower Columbia...they are already there. They netted the shat out of the Pend Oreille for years and that didn't keep them from coming over Boundary Dam and populating Lake Roosevelt. If salmon are the only thing that matters why not take out ALL the dams and close all Columbia River salmon fishing. And as usual let's pit the salmon fishermen against the spiny-ray fishermen.. the division goes on and on... getting pretty old  ..over and out

I wish they would take out all the dams and shut down fishing. Not just on the Columbia either. Spiny-ray fish can be found just about everywhere in this country. Pacific salmon are not.

Pacific salmon are found from California thousands of miles north to Alaska. Agree spiny ray are just about everywhere but I am not fishing everywhere in the country. I have spiny ray fishing close to home. Why should I go to some other state around the country to fish for them ..Just like me saying if you want Pacific Salmon go to Alaska.

So you want to impact salmon because you want to be able
To fish for non native species close to home? Salmon are native to the Columbia. Those species can also be found in this state in waters not necessary for salmon. So again it’s about saving a native species  not about what’s convenient for you

Nothing I do will impact the salmon.. You say this is about saving a "native" species or is it about saving Your favorite "native" species? The northern pikie minnow is "native" to the Columbia but you are in favor of wiping them out.

"The northern pikeminnow, or Columbia River dace (Ptychocheilus oregonensis) is a large member of the minnow family, Cyprinidae.[2][3] This predatory freshwater fish is native to northwestern North America, ranging from the Nass River basin to the Columbia River basin"

There is no way to keep the northern pike out of the lower Columbia..might be there now might be a few years. Why not get rid of the seals and fish eating birds that help to decimate the smolt and the returning spawners ? Get rid of the gill nets that line the river. Do it NOW before there is another salmon predator added to the list. My convenience of fishing near home has NOTHING to do with the salmon problem. Period

[Platensek-po]

I never said to wipe out Pikeminnow. I also agree we need to all those things AND keep predatory fish numbers down as well. Salmon are not my favorite native species but they happen to be struggling. Show me one place where pike, bass or walleye are endangered. This is about doing everything possible to help out a struggling native species. If you care so little then them targeting those species in salmon waters shouldn’t bother you one bit.

[Russ McDonald]

So eveyone knows northern pikeminnow 1st pic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_pikeminnow

Northern pike 2nd pic
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_pike

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[HUNTINCOUPLE]

Really no similarities.  Except maybe the big eyes.....  Oh ya and taste!!!!!

[Jake Dogfish]

I never said to wipe out Pikeminnow. I also agree we need to all those things AND keep predatory fish numbers down as well. Salmon are not my favorite native species but they happen to be struggling. Show me one place where pike, bass or walleye are endangered. This is about doing everything possible to help out a struggling native species. If you care so little then them targeting those species in salmon waters shouldn’t bother you one bit.

Spiny Rays are doing fine and always will no matter what we do.
I do not think that Pike or Pikeminnow are as big of threat as they are made out to be however.
Pikeminnow are a scapegoat scavenger fish.  Back in the 90s I fished right in the spillways of dams.  Schools of huge Pikeminnow gorge on Salmonids chopped up by dams and dead from dissolved oxygen.  They eat the fish tags and get blamed for eating salmon but no one ever mentions that a lot of the fish are dead or dying.
So far their is no evidence Pike can reproduce in western Washington.

[Limhangerslayer]

As usual it only matters what certain groups think. If you ask me it's to late to keep them out of the lower Columbia...they are already there. They netted the shat out of the Pend Oreille for years and that didn't keep them from coming over Boundary Dam and populating Lake Roosevelt. If salmon are the only thing that matters why not take out ALL the dams and close all Columbia River salmon fishing. And as usual let's pit the salmon fishermen against the spiny-ray fishermen.. the division goes on and on... getting pretty old  ..over and out

I wish they would take out all the dams and shut down fishing. Not just on the Columbia either. Spiny-ray fish can be found just about everywhere in this country. Pacific salmon are not.

Pacific salmon are found from California thousands of miles north to Alaska. Agree spiny ray are just about everywhere but I am not fishing everywhere in the country. I have spiny ray fishing close to home. Why should I go to some other state around the country to fish for them ..Just like me saying if you want Pacific Salmon go to Alaska.

So you want to impact salmon because you want to be able
To fish for non native species close to home? Salmon are native to the Columbia. Those species can also be found in this state in waters not necessary for salmon. So again it’s about saving a native species  not about what’s convenient for you

look up salmon predation in the Mcnary pool.  They did away with the limits on bass and walleye because of narrow minded special interest groups.  They are killing one of the top walleye fisheries in the nation.  And studies show that the pike minnow was over 70% of the salmons predation.  They target mostly Shad in that area.  And you want all dams out and no fishing??  You sound pretty trolly and special interest to me.

[ne kid]

Wish they would take the limit off bass and walleye in Roosevelt.