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Equipment changes proposed
« on: January 29, 2021, 09:42:07 AM »
The department is proposing to allow electronic range finding bow sights (aka Garmin) and to allow bread crumbs nocks on arrows.

They don’t think either change will result in more animals being harvested.

My question is who is pushing for this change?  I am opposed to both.  They aren’t needed.

They are also proposing to allow video cameras mounted to bows and to allow verifier in peeps.  I am in different on those.

Oh and they want comments to allow scopes on muzzleloaders.  The department is opposed.  They are in favor of 1x scopes.

Comment on the proposals beginning February 11th.


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Re: Equipment changes proposed
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2021, 09:56:55 AM »
Video cameras in fine with.  Garmin sight not a fan and a hell no on the nocks. 

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Re: Equipment changes proposed
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2021, 11:24:16 AM »
Video cameras in fine with.  Garmin sight not a fan and a hell no on the nocks.

I’m with you on this

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Re: Equipment changes proposed
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2021, 11:37:28 AM »
I would vote yes for the nocks, no for the sights and who cares for the video camera.

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Re: Equipment changes proposed
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2021, 11:56:52 AM »
Get your comments ready.  They will be needed.


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Re: Equipment changes proposed
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2021, 12:56:25 PM »
I dont think the range finder sights will go anywhere because they will increase harvest rates. The other 2 i dont think will effect harvest, just recovery.

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Re: Equipment changes proposed
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2021, 03:08:21 PM »
I dont think the range finder sights will go anywhere because they will increase harvest rates. The other 2 i dont think will effect harvest, just recovery.

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Per the proposal the department supports.  They don’t feel it will increase harvest.


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Re: Equipment changes proposed
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2021, 03:12:53 PM »
I dont think the range finder sights will go anywhere because they will increase harvest rates. The other 2 i dont think will effect harvest, just recovery.

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Per the proposal the department supports.  They don’t feel it will increase harvest.


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Won't increase harvest? Sounds alot like 1x muzzleloader scopes  :stirthepot:
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Re: Equipment changes proposed
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2021, 03:19:48 PM »
Issue 5: Allow the use of range-finding bow sights on archery equipment
Species: All game species WAC(s): 220-414-070
Background: Currently, it is unlawful for hunters to have any electrical equipment or electric device(s), except for illuminated nocks, attached to the bow or arrow while hunting. It is also unlawful to hunt wildlife with any bow equipped with a scope. The main argument for allowing the use of range-finding bow sights is related to improving the likelihood of a clean and ethical kill. Because the sights do not magnify the target, they also would not qualify as a scope. Of the products reviewed by the Department, the sights simply produce a digital reading of the estimated distance that is visible to the shooter while they are looking at the sight pins. The Department is not opposed to the use of range- finding bow sights because we do not feel it will result in more animals being harvested.
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1. No change.
2. Allow the use of range-finding bow sights on archery equipment


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Re: Equipment changes proposed
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2021, 03:23:07 PM »
did a quick google search and first range finder bow site that popped up was $799...  :yike:
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Re: Equipment changes proposed
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2021, 04:37:25 PM »
Where’s my mojo if they’re gonna allow this!?!?

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Re: Equipment changes proposed
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2021, 05:30:32 PM »
The department is proposing to allow electronic range finding bow sights (aka Garmin) and to allow bread crumbs nocks on arrows.

They don’t think either change will result in more animals being harvested.

My question is who is pushing for this change?  I am opposed to both.  They aren’t needed.

They are also proposing to allow video cameras mounted to bows and to allow verifier in peeps.  I am in different on those.

Oh and they want comments to allow scopes on muzzleloaders.  The department is opposed.  They are in favor of 1x scopes.

Comment on the proposals beginning February 11th.


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The question is what group is pushing for these changes? WSB?

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Re: Equipment changes proposed
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2021, 06:52:40 PM »
The department is proposing to allow electronic range finding bow sights (aka Garmin) and to allow bread crumbs nocks on arrows.

They don’t think either change will result in more animals being harvested.

My question is who is pushing for this change?  I am opposed to both.  They aren’t needed.

They are also proposing to allow video cameras mounted to bows and to allow verifier in peeps.  I am in different on those.

Oh and they want comments to allow scopes on muzzleloaders.  The department is opposed.  They are in favor of 1x scopes.

Comment on the proposals beginning February 11th.


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The question is what group is pushing for these changes? WSB?

Pretty sure neither the WSAA or the WSB are in favor of range finding Sights. As far as the classifiers for bows and 1x scopes I know the discussion was keeping older hunters around that need to use reading glasses. Since that effects revenue I can almost guarantee that is going to happen.
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Re: Equipment changes proposed
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2021, 08:11:13 PM »
I am guessing garmin and manufacturers brought it forward.


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Re: Equipment changes proposed
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2021, 09:16:50 PM »
 :yeah:

Whether or not more animals will be harvested is impossible to predict.  Good to see the department has used science based feelings  :dunno:

What is a possible prediction based on years of bowhunting and input from many others is more shots will be taken.

 


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