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Re: Canning supplies WTH?
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2021, 07:44:50 PM »
Just have to check ALL sources.  I bought 10 doz at wal mart when everyone else was up charging or didn’t have stock.  They’re like reloading and ammo - just need to surf the web daily looking for new stock.

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Re: Canning supplies WTH?
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2021, 12:12:00 AM »
Amazon has lids most of the times I have checked.  I bought 12 dozen ball lids the other day.
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Re: Canning supplies WTH?
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2021, 10:34:24 AM »
Has anyone had issues with off brand lids?
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Re: Canning supplies WTH?
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2021, 11:49:37 AM »
Amazon has lids most of the times I have checked.  I bought 12 dozen ball lids the other day.

Bought 6 packs of Ball lids last fall on amazon.  They arrived in what I called fake ball cartons (no bar code) and the lids did not have the ball stamp on them.  Did not use them for canning fish.

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Re: Canning supplies WTH?
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2021, 12:03:34 PM »
Has anyone had issues with off brand lids?
Have not tried any but i would be nervous, no reason other than id hate to waste product due to saving a few bucks.
Someone did post above about uline lids and having no issues so with 2 recommendations i might try those for like jams etc but im still sticking to ball or kerr lids only for meat :twocents:
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Re: Canning supplies WTH?
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2021, 12:06:21 PM »
Amazon has lids most of the times I have checked.  I bought 12 dozen ball lids the other day.

Bought 6 packs of Ball lids last fall on amazon.  They arrived in what I called fake ball cartons (no bar code) and the lids did not have the ball stamp on them.  Did not use them for canning fish.
When looking yesterday i was wondering about fake lids in fake packaging, i would check for a high seller rating and check all the pictures. I wont pay a buck a lid though unless it comes to that.
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Re: Canning supplies WTH?
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2021, 12:35:31 PM »
Cleaned out some of my moms canning stuff awhile ago and remembered we had it in a box, so last night went thru it and found some NIB ball lids that have to be from the 70's (blue/white and yellow box) also found 2 boxes of these solid lids from Anchor Hocking, got to be from the 70's or late 60's, check out the price  :)

Also remembered i had some old, like real old lids from who knows when that we pulled up in crab pots in Alaska, they have glass inserts that say genuine ball lids  :tup:
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Re: Canning supplies WTH?
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2021, 12:52:00 PM »
I found a bunch of those porcelain lids all over the Puget Sound and Green River while diving/bottle hunting.

I never realized exactly how they worked.  Good to know!
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Re: Canning supplies WTH?
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2021, 01:03:27 PM »
It the top part of those lids Lead?
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Re: Canning supplies WTH?
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2021, 01:05:15 PM »
It the top part of those lids Lead?
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Re: Canning supplies WTH?
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2021, 01:19:08 PM »
Most will be milk glass inserts instead of porcelain, although the original name of the insert was the "Boyds genuine porcelain lined cap" most were just made of glass and could come in various colors.
The original patent was given to him on March 30th 1869 and various manufactures made them. The original patent name is "Improved Mode of Preventing Corrosion In Metallic Caps"
The early ones where made of clear glass and from 1871 on milk glass was used, they were made well into to 50's, the glass insert was mainly to prevent the foods form touching the zinc lid and giving the food a metallic taste, and help prevent the increase in possible bacteria contamination.
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Re: Canning supplies WTH?
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2021, 02:06:09 PM »
Has anyone had issues with off brand lids?
Have not tried any but i would be nervous, no reason other than id hate to waste product due to saving a few bucks.
Someone did post above about uline lids and having no issues so with 2 recommendations i might try those for like jams etc but im still sticking to ball or kerr lids only for meat :twocents:

I've used whatever was available and that included a few off brands.  With the lids, it's completely obvious whether they sealed or not.  I'll probably get one no seal in 50 jars, due to not cleaning the rim enough or whatever and it goes in the refrigerator.

I've never had a jar that started sealed and came unsealed in the pantry. 

I have reused lids many times too as long as you don't dent the edge when you remove it.

Jar lids aren't the most technically advanced piece of equipment out there.

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Re: Canning supplies WTH?
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2021, 02:33:10 PM »
I have reused lids many times too as long as you don't dent the edge when you remove it.

Same here.  I've broken more jars (3) due to cold contents in hot bath than I've had no seal ever (1).

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Re: Canning supplies WTH?
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2021, 03:02:26 PM »
Don't reuse lids, the sealing compound is meant to be single use.

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Re: Canning supplies WTH?
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2021, 04:06:46 PM »
Tested out the uline lids on some tomato sauce had a couple that didn’t seal which is unusual for us.   They seem to be a little thicker then the ball lids.   Reused a couple ball lids and they sealed fine.  I know it’s not preferred but as long as it seals I think it’s fine    I’d rather re use lids then pay crazy prices at Amazon for counterfeit lids.   If lids don’t show back up locally I’ll buy some more of the uline before canning season rolls around.     We do between 300-500 jars a year.   The only thing we have ever had unseal in storage is the beet/horseradish relish from the ball book, have had a few unseal over the years from different batches.  Not sure why

 


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