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Quote from: fowl smacker on March 11, 2021, 05:41:38 AMQuote from: thinkingman on March 10, 2021, 10:30:49 PMQuote from: fowl smacker on March 10, 2021, 04:55:51 PMQuote from: thinkingman on March 10, 2021, 01:26:25 PMQuote from: Stein on March 10, 2021, 12:48:44 PMI have no marbles in the game, but 30 complaints total seems pretty low. I love my truck, it has 883 complaints. If there is a vehicle with 0 complaints, I would certainly be looking at that one!I know.I just laugh when people say 'You can't go wrong with LeOpold Toyota'.My Tacoma was an exercise in poor engineering, lowest-cost crap by vendors, and insane arrogance by Toyota when I pointed it out.There is a reason Toyota is getting left behind in sales and reviewers are using polite terms for cheap, poor engineering, and lack of execution.Curious what issues you had with your Tacoma? I've had 2 in the past, one which I had 280k on and didn'thave an issue with either. Dad drives a 2020 Tacoma now and it appears to have better features and is more advanced than my old 07'. I drive a 2017 Tundra now and my wife drives the 2016 Highlander. No issues whatsoever with either of those. Between my parents and myself and wife, we've driven Toyotas approximately 1.3 million miles and literally the only issue was my dad's 91' 4wd extra cab v6 that had a head gasket recall when new. He drove that til he bought his 2020 Taco yep 29 years, had over 300k on it and that is considered their crappiest motor. My cousin is still driving it. So in my experienced opinion. You really can't go wrong with Toyota. I really would love to hear your personal experiences though.My Toyota experience was posted in another thread. Google search Toyota leaf spring recall for my first issue then frame rust recall for another. The fact that you’re not aware of these concerns me. There are too many junk Toyota stories for me to post right now.If you wanted to Google search vehicle problems all day for any manufacturer you probably wouldn't be driving anything. Yes all vehicles have issues. I feel in my vast experience with Toyota and a few other manufacturers that Toyota has far less issues than the others. Nice answer by the way, I was asking for your PERSONAL experience, but it seems you took a page from Jen Psaki. Whatever your experience was, it must have been bad for you to have so much hate for Toyotas. Like I said over 1.3 million miles without a hiccup.Found another....April 2016-Toyota is off my list forever after my conversation with their 'Customer Care' last week.6 years after I pointed out the leaf springs on the 2006+ Tacomas were underengineered and sagging to the point the truck rode on the frame rails (Toyota: no, you're wrong, we make perfect vehicles), a TSB came out for the problem they told me didn't exist (no, you're screwed because you're out of warranty) then a full recall for the problem they told me didn't exist (No, you replaced those perfect springs yourself, we're not refunding anything but the cost of the springs and hardware kit. We couldn't care less about your experience, cost or frustration).I politely promised them I would tell anyone and everyone about their arrogance and substandard engineering.Unless you're a 19yr old wanting to lift it and put a 'FOX MX' sticker on the rear window, I'd go in a different direction.The Ford Ranger TD conversion in the classifieds would be WAYYYYYYY more appealing to me than a Toyota.Only benefit of buying Toyota is the number of Koolaid drinkers and above-said 19yr olds willing to pay silly money for them on the used market.I've been getting the 'You told us there was a problem in 2010 and we told you Toyota doesn't make defective products so you replaced them yourself and now we will find every new and creative reason to deny your reimbursement claim even though you included receipts and have detailed records going back to 2010' letter.Un-frickin-believable.
Quote from: thinkingman on March 10, 2021, 10:30:49 PMQuote from: fowl smacker on March 10, 2021, 04:55:51 PMQuote from: thinkingman on March 10, 2021, 01:26:25 PMQuote from: Stein on March 10, 2021, 12:48:44 PMI have no marbles in the game, but 30 complaints total seems pretty low. I love my truck, it has 883 complaints. If there is a vehicle with 0 complaints, I would certainly be looking at that one!I know.I just laugh when people say 'You can't go wrong with LeOpold Toyota'.My Tacoma was an exercise in poor engineering, lowest-cost crap by vendors, and insane arrogance by Toyota when I pointed it out.There is a reason Toyota is getting left behind in sales and reviewers are using polite terms for cheap, poor engineering, and lack of execution.Curious what issues you had with your Tacoma? I've had 2 in the past, one which I had 280k on and didn'thave an issue with either. Dad drives a 2020 Tacoma now and it appears to have better features and is more advanced than my old 07'. I drive a 2017 Tundra now and my wife drives the 2016 Highlander. No issues whatsoever with either of those. Between my parents and myself and wife, we've driven Toyotas approximately 1.3 million miles and literally the only issue was my dad's 91' 4wd extra cab v6 that had a head gasket recall when new. He drove that til he bought his 2020 Taco yep 29 years, had over 300k on it and that is considered their crappiest motor. My cousin is still driving it. So in my experienced opinion. You really can't go wrong with Toyota. I really would love to hear your personal experiences though.My Toyota experience was posted in another thread. Google search Toyota leaf spring recall for my first issue then frame rust recall for another. The fact that you’re not aware of these concerns me. There are too many junk Toyota stories for me to post right now.If you wanted to Google search vehicle problems all day for any manufacturer you probably wouldn't be driving anything. Yes all vehicles have issues. I feel in my vast experience with Toyota and a few other manufacturers that Toyota has far less issues than the others. Nice answer by the way, I was asking for your PERSONAL experience, but it seems you took a page from Jen Psaki. Whatever your experience was, it must have been bad for you to have so much hate for Toyotas. Like I said over 1.3 million miles without a hiccup.
Quote from: fowl smacker on March 10, 2021, 04:55:51 PMQuote from: thinkingman on March 10, 2021, 01:26:25 PMQuote from: Stein on March 10, 2021, 12:48:44 PMI have no marbles in the game, but 30 complaints total seems pretty low. I love my truck, it has 883 complaints. If there is a vehicle with 0 complaints, I would certainly be looking at that one!I know.I just laugh when people say 'You can't go wrong with LeOpold Toyota'.My Tacoma was an exercise in poor engineering, lowest-cost crap by vendors, and insane arrogance by Toyota when I pointed it out.There is a reason Toyota is getting left behind in sales and reviewers are using polite terms for cheap, poor engineering, and lack of execution.Curious what issues you had with your Tacoma? I've had 2 in the past, one which I had 280k on and didn'thave an issue with either. Dad drives a 2020 Tacoma now and it appears to have better features and is more advanced than my old 07'. I drive a 2017 Tundra now and my wife drives the 2016 Highlander. No issues whatsoever with either of those. Between my parents and myself and wife, we've driven Toyotas approximately 1.3 million miles and literally the only issue was my dad's 91' 4wd extra cab v6 that had a head gasket recall when new. He drove that til he bought his 2020 Taco yep 29 years, had over 300k on it and that is considered their crappiest motor. My cousin is still driving it. So in my experienced opinion. You really can't go wrong with Toyota. I really would love to hear your personal experiences though.My Toyota experience was posted in another thread. Google search Toyota leaf spring recall for my first issue then frame rust recall for another. The fact that you’re not aware of these concerns me. There are too many junk Toyota stories for me to post right now.
Quote from: thinkingman on March 10, 2021, 01:26:25 PMQuote from: Stein on March 10, 2021, 12:48:44 PMI have no marbles in the game, but 30 complaints total seems pretty low. I love my truck, it has 883 complaints. If there is a vehicle with 0 complaints, I would certainly be looking at that one!I know.I just laugh when people say 'You can't go wrong with LeOpold Toyota'.My Tacoma was an exercise in poor engineering, lowest-cost crap by vendors, and insane arrogance by Toyota when I pointed it out.There is a reason Toyota is getting left behind in sales and reviewers are using polite terms for cheap, poor engineering, and lack of execution.Curious what issues you had with your Tacoma? I've had 2 in the past, one which I had 280k on and didn'thave an issue with either. Dad drives a 2020 Tacoma now and it appears to have better features and is more advanced than my old 07'. I drive a 2017 Tundra now and my wife drives the 2016 Highlander. No issues whatsoever with either of those. Between my parents and myself and wife, we've driven Toyotas approximately 1.3 million miles and literally the only issue was my dad's 91' 4wd extra cab v6 that had a head gasket recall when new. He drove that til he bought his 2020 Taco yep 29 years, had over 300k on it and that is considered their crappiest motor. My cousin is still driving it. So in my experienced opinion. You really can't go wrong with Toyota. I really would love to hear your personal experiences though.
Quote from: Stein on March 10, 2021, 12:48:44 PMI have no marbles in the game, but 30 complaints total seems pretty low. I love my truck, it has 883 complaints. If there is a vehicle with 0 complaints, I would certainly be looking at that one!I know.I just laugh when people say 'You can't go wrong with LeOpold Toyota'.My Tacoma was an exercise in poor engineering, lowest-cost crap by vendors, and insane arrogance by Toyota when I pointed it out.There is a reason Toyota is getting left behind in sales and reviewers are using polite terms for cheap, poor engineering, and lack of execution.
I have no marbles in the game, but 30 complaints total seems pretty low. I love my truck, it has 883 complaints. If there is a vehicle with 0 complaints, I would certainly be looking at that one!
Quote from: thinkingman on March 11, 2021, 02:42:18 PMQuote from: Fl0und3rz on March 11, 2021, 08:32:24 AMGuy gets a lemon or a Co. falls down on the job once in a while. It's the difference between statistics and anecdotes. I am fine if a guy wants to deprive himself of one of the best-made, highest-resale vehicles on the road. It's a free country.My post from 7/27/18:Right now I''m pushing Toyota to reimburse me for the rear suspension I had to replace on my 'incredible, amazing, can't go wrong' Tacoma.5 years after I told them the rear springs lost arch and were garbage, they issued a recall(Do they issue recalls for amazing vehicles?)and now they don't want to reimburse me for fixing their problem.That's what I'm pushing right now.Thankfully, I didn't have to deal with the frame rust replacement recall, my frame didn't have a full 10cm perforation, which would have meant a total frame replacement.I could list all the POS Toyota issues with that vehicle if you'd like.I'd be concerned about the Tundra bed rust recall right now, if I were you.My post from today. Quote from: Fl0und3rz on March 11, 2021, 08:32:24 AMGuy gets a lemon or a Co. falls down on the job once in a while. It's the difference between statistics and anecdotes. I am fine if a guy wants to deprive himself of one of the best-made, highest-resale vehicles on the road. It's a free country.To be clear, you should let everyone know whether this was just one car/truck, or a number of different ones. And what year, make, model, and if purchased new, if you have not already. Because it sounds like you had a missed opportunity to invoke WA lemon law.https://www.atg.wa.gov/lemon-law-0Oh, and do you have any personal experience with the Highlander you would like to share with the OP?
Quote from: Fl0und3rz on March 11, 2021, 08:32:24 AMGuy gets a lemon or a Co. falls down on the job once in a while. It's the difference between statistics and anecdotes. I am fine if a guy wants to deprive himself of one of the best-made, highest-resale vehicles on the road. It's a free country.My post from 7/27/18:Right now I''m pushing Toyota to reimburse me for the rear suspension I had to replace on my 'incredible, amazing, can't go wrong' Tacoma.5 years after I told them the rear springs lost arch and were garbage, they issued a recall(Do they issue recalls for amazing vehicles?)and now they don't want to reimburse me for fixing their problem.That's what I'm pushing right now.Thankfully, I didn't have to deal with the frame rust replacement recall, my frame didn't have a full 10cm perforation, which would have meant a total frame replacement.I could list all the POS Toyota issues with that vehicle if you'd like.I'd be concerned about the Tundra bed rust recall right now, if I were you.
Guy gets a lemon or a Co. falls down on the job once in a while. It's the difference between statistics and anecdotes. I am fine if a guy wants to deprive himself of one of the best-made, highest-resale vehicles on the road. It's a free country.
Quote from: Fl0und3rz on March 11, 2021, 03:46:42 PMQuote from: thinkingman on March 11, 2021, 02:42:18 PMQuote from: Fl0und3rz on March 11, 2021, 08:32:24 AMGuy gets a lemon or a Co. falls down on the job once in a while. It's the difference between statistics and anecdotes. I am fine if a guy wants to deprive himself of one of the best-made, highest-resale vehicles on the road. It's a free country.My post from 7/27/18:Right now I''m pushing Toyota to reimburse me for the rear suspension I had to replace on my 'incredible, amazing, can't go wrong' Tacoma.5 years after I told them the rear springs lost arch and were garbage, they issued a recall(Do they issue recalls for amazing vehicles?)and now they don't want to reimburse me for fixing their problem.That's what I'm pushing right now.Thankfully, I didn't have to deal with the frame rust replacement recall, my frame didn't have a full 10cm perforation, which would have meant a total frame replacement.I could list all the POS Toyota issues with that vehicle if you'd like.I'd be concerned about the Tundra bed rust recall right now, if I were you.My post from today. Quote from: Fl0und3rz on March 11, 2021, 08:32:24 AMGuy gets a lemon or a Co. falls down on the job once in a while. It's the difference between statistics and anecdotes. I am fine if a guy wants to deprive himself of one of the best-made, highest-resale vehicles on the road. It's a free country.To be clear, you should let everyone know whether this was just one car/truck, or a number of different ones. And what year, make, model, and if purchased new, if you have not already. Because it sounds like you had a missed opportunity to invoke WA lemon law.https://www.atg.wa.gov/lemon-law-0Oh, and do you have any personal experience with the Highlander you would like to share with the OP?Do you know what a recall is?Sorry OP but I promised Toyota when they blatantly screwed me on the reimbursement with a full set receipts that I would tell this story and they basically said ‘There are so so many Koolaid Fanboys we’ll still sell this crap’.
Quote from: thinkingman on March 11, 2021, 08:10:04 PMQuote from: Fl0und3rz on March 11, 2021, 03:46:42 PMQuote from: thinkingman on March 11, 2021, 02:42:18 PMQuote from: Fl0und3rz on March 11, 2021, 08:32:24 AMGuy gets a lemon or a Co. falls down on the job once in a while. It's the difference between statistics and anecdotes. I am fine if a guy wants to deprive himself of one of the best-made, highest-resale vehicles on the road. It's a free country.My post from 7/27/18:Right now I''m pushing Toyota to reimburse me for the rear suspension I had to replace on my 'incredible, amazing, can't go wrong' Tacoma.5 years after I told them the rear springs lost arch and were garbage, they issued a recall(Do they issue recalls for amazing vehicles?)and now they don't want to reimburse me for fixing their problem.That's what I'm pushing right now.Thankfully, I didn't have to deal with the frame rust replacement recall, my frame didn't have a full 10cm perforation, which would have meant a total frame replacement.I could list all the POS Toyota issues with that vehicle if you'd like.I'd be concerned about the Tundra bed rust recall right now, if I were you.My post from today. Quote from: Fl0und3rz on March 11, 2021, 08:32:24 AMGuy gets a lemon or a Co. falls down on the job once in a while. It's the difference between statistics and anecdotes. I am fine if a guy wants to deprive himself of one of the best-made, highest-resale vehicles on the road. It's a free country.To be clear, you should let everyone know whether this was just one car/truck, or a number of different ones. And what year, make, model, and if purchased new, if you have not already. Because it sounds like you had a missed opportunity to invoke WA lemon law.https://www.atg.wa.gov/lemon-law-0Oh, and do you have any personal experience with the Highlander you would like to share with the OP?Do you know what a recall is?Sorry OP but I promised Toyota when they blatantly screwed me on the reimbursement with a full set receipts that I would tell this story and they basically said ‘There are so so many Koolaid Fanboys we’ll still sell this crap’.Thinkingman, you’re probably not changing any minds here.
It sounds like an issue with his make and model. I have a 15 Tacoma that's done nothing but beat my expectations. It is very difficult to get stuck especially with the rear dif lock. And it fits 31.6 inch tires stock no rubs. Pretty much everyone I know who owns any kind of Toyota recommends them.
Did you help him put them on?
Helped them get drunk then
Quote from: Jason on March 11, 2021, 08:26:23 PMQuote from: thinkingman on March 11, 2021, 08:10:04 PMQuote from: Fl0und3rz on March 11, 2021, 03:46:42 PMQuote from: thinkingman on March 11, 2021, 02:42:18 PMQuote from: Fl0und3rz on March 11, 2021, 08:32:24 AMGuy gets a lemon or a Co. falls down on the job once in a while. It's the difference between statistics and anecdotes. I am fine if a guy wants to deprive himself of one of the best-made, highest-resale vehicles on the road. It's a free country.My post from 7/27/18:Right now I''m pushing Toyota to reimburse me for the rear suspension I had to replace on my 'incredible, amazing, can't go wrong' Tacoma.5 years after I told them the rear springs lost arch and were garbage, they issued a recall(Do they issue recalls for amazing vehicles?)and now they don't want to reimburse me for fixing their problem.That's what I'm pushing right now.Thankfully, I didn't have to deal with the frame rust replacement recall, my frame didn't have a full 10cm perforation, which would have meant a total frame replacement.I could list all the POS Toyota issues with that vehicle if you'd like.I'd be concerned about the Tundra bed rust recall right now, if I were you.My post from today. Quote from: Fl0und3rz on March 11, 2021, 08:32:24 AMGuy gets a lemon or a Co. falls down on the job once in a while. It's the difference between statistics and anecdotes. I am fine if a guy wants to deprive himself of one of the best-made, highest-resale vehicles on the road. It's a free country.To be clear, you should let everyone know whether this was just one car/truck, or a number of different ones. And what year, make, model, and if purchased new, if you have not already. Because it sounds like you had a missed opportunity to invoke WA lemon law.https://www.atg.wa.gov/lemon-law-0Oh, and do you have any personal experience with the Highlander you would like to share with the OP?Do you know what a recall is?Sorry OP but I promised Toyota when they blatantly screwed me on the reimbursement with a full set receipts that I would tell this story and they basically said ‘There are so so many Koolaid Fanboys we’ll still sell this crap’.Thinkingman, you’re probably not changing any minds here. I don't know. Maybe he can tell us what recall is. Bonus points if he can explain how only Toyota has them.