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Non Native Fish
« on: March 09, 2021, 07:24:14 AM »
I was just reading the draft for what to do concerning non native fish. The list of them is at the end. I was surprised by some on the list that are non native. Here is the draft:
https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2021-03/draft_non-native_game_fish_policy_0.pdf
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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2021, 08:34:25 PM »
So the northern pikeminnow is a native species huh? Guess there goes the bounty program on the Columbia River?! :lol4: :lol4:

More reasons to detest this State evolve every year. Can't wait to move! Smh
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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2021, 09:14:24 PM »
Yes Pikeminnow have always been native and a scapegoat for dams killing fish.
I don’t see how they will be treated any differently.
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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2021, 06:07:19 AM »
There is a big confusion between the pikeminnow and the Northern Pike.  2 totally different fish.  Northern Pike is non native.

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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2021, 06:09:44 AM »
It's just more focusing on what's NOT the actual threat to the future of salmon and more excuses to waste money, land grab and ruin other fisheries in the process. Heck, I didn't even bother trying to catch a salmon last season and probably never will again.

Simple rod and reel anglers don't have the financial means to fight it. Nor do we generate enough revenue for the State to just 'look the other way', or to focus their collective resources in a proper, more helpful direction.

Heaven forbid a seal or sea lion should lose its life. Or a couple thousand cormorants be removed. Or a couple netting seasons be canceled. Nope, it's those pesky walleye, bass and tiger musky. Hey WDFW, gut a few trout in this State and see what tumbles out...oops, did I type that out loud lol  8)

As long as there's a Florida and a Texas, I will always have spiny ray friendly States to retire in and catch bass until I shuffle off this rock. Poison away WDFW.

Welp, better gets back to bassin' before they've all dun ben kilt! Rant over. lol Smh
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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2021, 07:22:34 AM »
It's just more focusing on what's NOT the actual threat to the future of salmon and more excuses to waste money, land grab and ruin other fisheries in the process. Heck, I didn't even bother trying to catch a salmon last season and probably never will again.

Simple rod and reel anglers don't have the financial means to fight it. Nor do we generate enough revenue for the State to just 'look the other way', or to focus their collective resources in a proper, more helpful direction.

Heaven forbid a seal or sea lion should lose its life. Or a couple thousand cormorants be removed. Or a couple netting seasons be canceled. Nope, it's those pesky walleye, bass and tiger musky. Hey WDFW, gut a few trout in this State and see what tumbles out...oops, did I type that out loud lol  8)

As long as there's a Florida and a Texas, I will always have spiny ray friendly States to retire in and catch bass until I shuffle off this rock. Poison away WDFW.

Welp, better gets back to bassin' before they've all dun ben kilt! Rant over. lol Smh
Love it and totally agree.  I have fished for salmon and trout but you can't take the bass, walleye, norhterns out of  MN boy

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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2021, 08:05:03 AM »
Looking at that list, fishing in this state would suck without non-native species!
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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2021, 08:07:16 AM »
Looking at that list, fishing in this state would suck without non-native species!

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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2021, 08:57:41 AM »
Looking at that list, fishing in this state would suck without non-native species!

I reluctantly agree...
I am a Panfish, Walleye and Cutthroat guy mainly, but am getting more into saltwater fishing of late. I really enjoy panfishing and eating them though. Caught a HUGE Pikeminnow out of Lake Washington a couple years ago. Hard to tell how many fish it had eaten over the years, but it had to be a lot.
Open up a season for the Seals and Sea Lions, or go 'unlimited' for the tribes until the numbers get under control. That would be worth hitting the locks to watch the harpooning!
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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2021, 09:05:59 AM »
Looking at that list, fishing in this state would suck without non-native species!

I reluctantly agree...
I am a Panfish, Walleye and Cutthroat guy mainly, but am getting more into saltwater fishing of late. I really enjoy panfishing and eating them though. Caught a HUGE Pikeminnow out of Lake Washington a couple years ago. Hard to tell how many fish it had eaten over the years, but it had to be a lot.
Open up a season for the Seals and Sea Lions, or go 'unlimited' for the tribes until the numbers get under control. That would be worth hitting the locks to watch the harpooning!


Yes sir. Had some amazing lake Sammamish perch tacos last night!
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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2021, 09:37:58 AM »
Looking at that list, fishing in this state would suck without non-native species!

I reluctantly agree...
I am a Panfish, Walleye and Cutthroat guy mainly, but am getting more into saltwater fishing of late. I really enjoy panfishing and eating them though. Caught a HUGE Pikeminnow out of Lake Washington a couple years ago. Hard to tell how many fish it had eaten over the years, but it had to be a lot.
Open up a season for the Seals and Sea Lions, or go 'unlimited' for the tribes until the numbers get under control. That would be worth hitting the locks to watch the harpooning!


Yes sir. Had some amazing lake Sammamish perch tacos last night!

"Perch taco's" is a pair of words often heard here! Yummers!
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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2021, 09:50:31 AM »
Looking at that list, fishing in this state would suck without non-native species!

I can't help but feel that's the actual underlying intent. Get hunters out of the woods and anglers off the water, Washington State's true goal. :twocents:
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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2021, 10:20:06 AM »
At what point in history do we snapshot and determine whether or not something is "Native"? We're judging a species based on its origin but in the meantime have altered the environment so much that the species most equipped to thrive and be caught for sustenance might not be the same as pre-dams and high pressure fishing.

I would like to see a lot of lakes expressly managed for the benefit of perch, crappie, walleye, pike etc. Particularly in the smaller, warmer eastside lakes where trout will never thrive.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2021, 10:47:39 AM »

I would like to see a lot of lakes expressly managed for the benefit of perch, crappie, walleye, pike etc. Particularly in the smaller, warmer eastside lakes where trout will never thrive.

Aren't a lot of them already "managed" that way?

And I say "managed" because to the WDFW  that means they don't have to do anything. On the west-side nearly all lowland lakes are what they call mixed species; meaning they do a token trout plant in the spring and let the rest of the species do as they will.
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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2021, 10:50:25 AM »

I would like to see a lot of lakes expressly managed for the benefit of perch, crappie, walleye, pike etc. Particularly in the smaller, warmer eastside lakes where trout will never thrive.

Aren't a lot of them already "managed" that way?

And I say "managed" because to the WDFW  that means they don't have to do anything. On the west-side nearly all lowland lakes are what they call mixed species; meaning they do a token trout plant in the spring and let the rest of the species do as they will.

Exactly. And having 700,000,000 undersized panfish among the planter trout doesn't make it any better for anyone except for all the 49" Tiger Muskies
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

 


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