collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: saw this legal action pending recently: intent to sue WA concering fisheries  (Read 4434 times)

Offline Stein

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+11)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 13139
  • Location: Arlington
At some point, the blunt hammer that is the ESA will find a way to swing into a new victim.  That's my guess anyway.  I can fake my way through some legal contract stuff, but treaty rights and ESA aren't on that list.

From my perspective, we (non-tribal, non-commercial) are paying a huge price towards a bill that will never get paid.  I think many of us would be OK if there was some sort of coherent plan and either an end in sight or at least more shared sacrifice.

Offline pianoman9701

  • Mushroom Man
  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2011
  • Posts: 45195
  • Location: Vancouver USA
  • Mortgage Licenses in WA, ID, & OR NMLS #2014743
    • www.facebook.com/johnwallacemortgage
    • John Wallace Mortgage
Don't the treaties allow them half the harvestable amount?  Seems like they are arguing they are going far over that with help from the state and feds.

I don't believe so. My understanding is that those aren't part of the treaties and are non-binding goals set between the participating tribes, the DFW, and the USFWS for projected returns and harvest. Anyone care to comment or correct me? Bueler, Bueler?

The Boldt decision found that "in common with" means half.

That's good to know. Who confirms harvest numbers?
"Restricting the rights of law-abiding citizens based on the actions of criminals and madmen will have no positive effect on the future acts of criminals and madmen. It will only serve to reduce individual rights and the very security of our republic." - Pianoman https://linktr.ee/johnlwallace https://valoaneducator.tv/johnwallace-2014743

Offline Special T

  • Truth the new Hate Speech.
  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2009
  • Posts: 25059
  • Location: Skagit Valley
  • Make it Rain!
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
    • Silver Arrow Bowmen
Don't the treaties allow them half the harvestable amount?  Seems like they are arguing they are going far over that with help from the state and feds.

I don't believe so. My understanding is that those aren't part of the treaties and are non-binding goals set between the participating tribes, the DFW, and the USFWS for projected returns and harvest. Anyone care to comment or correct me? Bueler, Bueler?

The Boldt decision found that "in common with" means half.

That's good to know. Who confirms harvest numbers?

My understanding is it is reported but not by individual tribe it is reported to NW Indian Fisheries Commission. I heard that this was so that this was to reduce hate or retribution to individuals and thier tribe.


https://nwifc.org/
In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself. 

Confucius

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Selkirk bull moose. by vandeman17
[Today at 08:30:51 AM]


Steaming Euro Mounts by Reidus
[Today at 08:23:33 AM]


Mt. St. Helens Goat by CNELK
[Today at 08:21:42 AM]


49 DN Moose Success by JakeLand
[Today at 08:17:25 AM]


2025 elk success thread!! by kirkl
[Today at 07:11:10 AM]


Vortex scope by hookr88
[Today at 07:07:31 AM]


Turnbull elk hunt by getreal711
[Today at 05:24:02 AM]


What happened to the Cowlitz by BigGoonTuna
[Today at 04:05:47 AM]


Grayback Youth Hunt by Deer slayer
[Yesterday at 07:56:31 PM]


Displaced Hunting Camps? by NOCK NOCK
[Yesterday at 07:55:32 PM]


SPIKE??? by NOCK NOCK
[Yesterday at 07:53:00 PM]


Bugs and bones by jackelope
[Yesterday at 07:38:55 PM]


Mountain View archery elk. by High Climber
[Yesterday at 04:48:52 PM]


WWF influence on Inslee's final commission appointments by Firstgenhunter
[Yesterday at 04:02:57 PM]


What's your favorite elk hunting cartridge? by Cougartail
[Yesterday at 03:25:46 PM]


Mill creek watershed by Hot Lunch
[Yesterday at 01:29:07 PM]


Wy Region A whitetail by jamesfromseattle
[Yesterday at 01:18:15 PM]


Sheep Ewe - Whitestone Sheep Unit 20 by X-Force
[Yesterday at 11:42:47 AM]


Plugging bighorn sheep? by EnglishSetter
[Yesterday at 10:30:48 AM]


Paper bee hive, worth anything?? by Ridgeratt
[Yesterday at 09:16:52 AM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal