Floorless tipi style shelter concerns

[hogslayer]

I have a Kifaru Sawtooth.  Big only complaint is during cold windy nights.  Wind gets underneath the tent because you can't get it close enough to the ground.  It was 18* with 15 MPH winds and they would rip into the tent from underneath.

[WapitiTalk1]

I have a Kifaru Sawtooth.  Big only complaint is during cold windy nights.  Wind gets underneath the tent because you can't get it close enough to the ground.  It was 18* with 15 MPH winds and they would rip into the tent from underneath.

HS, yes! One of my reservations about Kifarroo is that they don’t have snow flaps on a lot of their products (or whatever they’re called).  Sure, you save a few ounces but snow flaps are HUGE during inclimate weather.

[Tbob]

I had a Seekoutside Redcliff and really liked it and never had any problems setting it up on any type of terrain.. a little practice and you’ll be all good. I just couldn’t handle the constant condensation.. if you’re not running a stove in WA you’ll be really wet from the tent dripping on you.. I didn’t think it would be a big deal, you know, just wipe it with a towel and you’re good to go.... nope! We had puddles of water on our bags every day. There was 3 of us and no stove. We vented the crap out of it, doors as open as possible with the rain. Open fully when not raining. We lifted it up off the ground a few inches even for better airflow. Nope! No good, still dripping. I love the shelter, just couldn’t handle the amount it would rain on us form the inside.

[millerwheeler]

Take a look at viamoutdoors  Tristan  has a lot of set ups and can make anything you want. I have had lots of gear from him worth every penny

[pickardjw]

I had a Seekoutside Redcliff and really liked it and never had any problems setting it up on any type of terrain.. a little practice and you’ll be all good. I just couldn’t handle the constant condensation.. if you’re not running a stove in WA you’ll be really wet from the tent dripping on you.. I didn’t think it would be a big deal, you know, just wipe it with a towel and you’re good to go.... nope! We had puddles of water on our bags every day. There was 3 of us and no stove. We vented the crap out of it, doors as open as possible with the rain. Open fully when not raining. We lifted it up off the ground a few inches even for better airflow. Nope! No good, still dripping. I love the shelter, just couldn’t handle the amount it would rain on us form the inside.

Were y'all in a particularly humid environment or the high country? And what time of year? Currently waiting on my redcliff to arrive...

[Tbob]

Yeah to be fair, we were in the backcountry in Sept and it rained almost all week. The air was just “wet”.  The rain was bad enough, then the condensation. We were just fighting it all week. It was a wet suckfest. If it wasn’t for that, I loved that tent! Had the Liteoutdoors stove.

[7mmfan]

Condensation is definitely the primary drawback to single wall teepee style shelters, especially if you have 2-3 guys sleeping in it. If you have one with storm flaps that lie on the ground, it will sure keep wind and blowing/drifting snow out but it traps all that moisture in there. My 4 man pyramid style shelter when pitched has a gap of multiple inches and it definitely helps with condensation but doesn't eliminate it. I found that by piling fir boughs all around it that I could still maintain airflow but reduce wind gusts and snow infiltration. A stove makes an enormous difference in the amount of condensation in it, but even it doesn't completely eliminate it. I have learned to love my shelter though, and only use my 2 man tent when I'm going deep, solo.

[Rob]

Has anyone tried a liner?

[CaNINE]

I have a liner for my seek outside tipi. It remedies the condensation issue at the expense of extra weight. I use a liner on the sleeping side of the tent.

[Magnum_Willys]

Condensation is a pain.  I use a liner.   I wouldn’t  use a tipi with any humidity without a stove and no reason to use a tipi style unless needing a stove.   

Only if  you need packable shelter with  wood heat get a tipi.   

[actionshooter]

One of the biggest mistakes we had ever made was using a floorless Kifaru tipi in Alaska on a float trip..... it rained more inside for 2 weeks that it did outside and we had a stove.... they have their place and that wasn't it...

[huntnnw]

no thanks, more of my hunts seem to occur with rain,snow or wet ground. I dont need to worry about my sleeping bag all night if its off my pad wondering if its in the mud soaking up water all night. ounces for me to have a floor and a barrier to wet ground  or if it rains and water runs off tent it rolls under the barrier and not into my sleeping area. We all know we never get to pitch tents in perfect spots

[JeffRaines]

I’m with the other guys.

In a drier environment, or if you can locate the PERFECT campsite away from any moisture sources, they can be great... and we know how often “perfect” situations happen. Otherwise, condensation city, and this is with one guy. Tent pitched 3-4” off the ground, doors open at the top, dry weather, tent soaked.

[limpy4]

What about wood stoves ? Is the 18inch lite outside with the baffle worth the extra ounces over the 18" kifaru as far as burn time? I've seen reviews claiming up to four hours of heat with the lite outside but nothing on the kifaru.

[snake]

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