Floorless tipi style shelter concerns

[limpy4]

I want to buy a cimerron or something similar.
I'm concerned about finding good ground that can hold that many stakes. I've had a hard time getting just a few stakes to hold in the back country.
I'm mostly in the pasayten , tiffany pass, the conc, most of northern washington I guess.
Am I over thinking or is it a  common struggle finding the right ground?

[vandeman17]

are you hoping to run a stove? If not and you are running a ground cloth, a floored tent could be a better option

[Platensek-po]

Have you thought about a back country hammock? They make some good ones now that have a rain fly and bug netting. I have those kind of tents for backpacking and im not a big fan.

[mburrows]

Never had an issue personally and I love the flourless shelter set ups. Use them almost exclusively. Just added another to the line up. The  foot prints can be a little bigger on some of them so finding flat ground can be a little more challenging but if you plan for that and keep that in mind it’s a non issue.

[Stein]

It really depends on where you go.  Most of the time, I think it would be ok, but there are the times where you end up in a place where the only flat ground is 4' wide and it's a stretch to get that.  I would be more worried about footprint than stakes, I think if you don't have good dirt you will have rocks, logs, trees or something to make it work.

[Jingles]

If just looking for a floorless shelter that has size and height, like I am look at an Insulated popup ice shelter in particular for me is the Eskimo Breakout 450 XD. With removable windows can even add a  woodburner, plenty of space for 1 or two folks plus gear set up size 138 X 139 with 80 inches of height

[7mmfan]

It really depends on where you go.  Most of the time, I think it would be ok, but there are the times where you end up in a place where the only flat ground is 4' wide and it's a stretch to get that.  I would be more worried about footprint than stakes, I think if you don't have good dirt you will have rocks, logs, trees or something to make it work.

Yeah that. Don't worry to much about dirt if you can find rocks or logs or roots to toe off too.

[limpy4]

The stove is my main goal . Was gonna go with the half nest with hopes there will still  be room for my two dogs also.
Good to know logs and rocks will work, wasn't sure if there was any forgiveness with the pitching of these tents.

Thanks for the comments.

[Fl0und3rz]

I have a Seek Outside 8 man, and it is a pretty bid footprint.  I have had some issues, fitting into established sites.  But, IMO, it is a not a major concern that would prevent me from going with a smaller, packable, floorless shelter like the Cimarron. 

[pd]

For pitching on uneven ground, there is a really nice instruction video out there, I just saw it.  I think it was on the Seek Outside website.  Look for it, I will help if you can't find it.

[pd]

For pitching on uneven ground, there is a really nice instruction video out there, I just saw it.  I think it was on the Seek Outside website.  Look for it, I will help if you can't find it.

Found it.  Really useful.

I seem to remember something about not being able to post a link on this forum.  Against the rules.
If this is a transgression, somebody please remove it.

[Skinnyguts]

This was probably the tightest pitch I had on a 10 day hunt. Used only rocks and sticks.

[Magnum_Willys]

Dang thats Steep!!!!

[Fl0und3rz]

[WapitiTalk1]

Floor-less tipis are GREAT! Except in WA State before the first hard frost. No-seeums and skeetos will eat the flesh off your body