Suppressors

[Gettin Birdie]

Dang, those are some serious dreads!   If I live in MT can I buy a suppressor from you in WA?  Saw some of the Christmas deals and really wanted to pull the trigger but need to wait until next Christmas.  Thanks, Daniel

Thank you! I tried to get them scored for B&C but, for some reason they declined. 
Yes, actually you can buy a suppressor from me. However, a dealer in Montana would have to facilitate the transfer to you which would include any fees they have.

   Thanks for the info, I'll be researching more and keeping my eye open for those killer deals you offer!

[dreadi]

Dang, those are some serious dreads!   If I live in MT can I buy a suppressor from you in WA?  Saw some of the Christmas deals and really wanted to pull the trigger but need to wait until next Christmas.  Thanks, Daniel

Thank you! I tried to get them scored for B&C but, for some reason they declined. 
Yes, actually you can buy a suppressor from me. However, a dealer in Montana would have to facilitate the transfer to you which would include any fees they have.

   Thanks for the info, I'll be researching more and keeping my eye open for those killer deals you offer!

That BOGO sale was a manufacturer sale. The last time they offered a BOGO was in 2018.

[bearhunter99]

Dreadi - Have you seen any difference so far in the processing times with Eforms?  Just curious since it rolled out in late December and they were touting such a fast turn-around. 

I filed paper forms in Jan of 2021 and March of 2021 (bought in January but they were out of stock until March) and am still waiting.....  I was really tempted to take advantage of the BOGO they had and trying the Eforms to see if I got those faster than the ones from last year

I haven’t not received any response for the ~20 eform 4 that I submitted in mid January.

Today however, I did receive a another approved paper form.



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[dreadi]

I really dig this little silencer. The Silencer Co Omega 9K is short, doesn't weigh much, and apparently I'm a better shooter with it on at 25 yards.
It's also rated for 300 Blackout Super and Sub. Maybe I'll develop a new caliber and call it 300 Blackout Dom. Seriously, come see me about suppressors and let's get you set up for even more fun with your firearms.

[James]

I am putting together the build plan for a new hunting rifle and I have a couple of newbie suppressor questions, with regards to hunting applications

So I am looking for some advice...

Cleaning:

Ability to take apart and clean, how big of a deal is this? I like to be able to thoroughly clean my equipment to keep buildup and corrosion at bay for even a range queen, but for a hunting it seems like it would be a requirement. I hunt in Washington’s coastal rainforest for rosie elk and deer, so moisture, muck, pine needles, etc. find their way into everywhere.

Durability:

Hunting the thick jungle in the wet means slipping, falling, banging stuff into things, etc. How easy to dent/damage are these suppressors? Will a simple fall crossing a rocky river destroy them?

What else should I be thinking about from a hard core hunting perspective?

Thank you

[trophyhunt]

Solvent traps are cheap.....

[dreadi]

I am putting together the build plan for a new hunting rifle and I have a couple of newbie suppressor questions, with regards to hunting applications

So I am looking for some advice...

Cleaning:

Ability to take apart and clean, how big of a deal is this? I like to be able to thoroughly clean my equipment to keep buildup and corrosion at bay for even a range queen, but for a hunting it seems like it would be a requirement. I hunt in Washington’s coastal rainforest for rosie elk and deer, so moisture, muck, pine needles, etc. find their way into everywhere.

Durability:

Hunting the thick jungle in the wet means slipping, falling, banging stuff into things, etc. How easy to dent/damage are these suppressors? Will a simple fall crossing a rocky river destroy them?

What else should I be thinking about from a hard core hunting perspective?

Thank you

Cleaning is as big of a deal as you want it to be. Fully welded silencers are my preference because I don't want to take apart baffles to clean. If you're really in to getting everything clean as if it came straight the box from the factory, you're not going to be be able to do that with fully welded cans. You'd be better off looking at silencers that have removable baffles/cups/mono core baffle.  Every company for every suppressor has instructions for cleaning. Some of them, just soak in CLP and then shoot it. Others can take a more detailed approach with multiple methods.

Silencers are made from the same materials that your firearms are made from. Steel, titanium, aluminum, stelllite, are all used to make them and I'm sure there more substrates that I don't have memorized. They are designed to do their job and not die on impact from a normal drop. They aren't impervious to abuse or misuse and most companies have strong warranties in place. I've exercised a warranty repair before and it only cost me shipping one way. Now if you go tumbling down a mountain with it on the end of your rifle doing cartwheels, who knows?

[dreadi]

Solvent traps are cheap.....

and are self warrantied.

[James]

Cleaning is as big of a deal as you want it to be. Fully welded silencers are my preference because I don't want to take apart baffles to clean. If you're really in to getting everything clean as if it came straight the box from the factory, you're not going to be be able to do that with fully welded cans. You'd be better off looking at silencers that have removable baffles/cups/mono core baffle.  Every company for every suppressor has instructions for cleaning. Some of them, just soak in CLP and then shoot it. Others can take a more detailed approach with multiple methods.

Silencers are made from the same materials that your firearms are made from. Steel, titanium, aluminum, stelllite, are all used to make them and I'm sure there more substrates that I don't have memorized. They are designed to do their job and not die on impact from a normal drop. They aren't impervious to abuse or misuse and most companies have strong warranties in place. I've exercised a warranty repair before and it only cost me shipping one way. Now if you go tumbling down a mountain with it on the end of your rifle doing cartwheels, who knows?

Thank you

No doubt, I am not looking for them to be surviving abuse, or at least anything more than rifles typically do. But hunting hard in the rainforest is bordering on abuse (I am sure many would consider it fully abusive!). I am guessing the suppressor walls are not as thick as a rifle barrel, so it’s good to hear if it gets wacked against a tree for example the suppressor won’t dent. 

After a day of hunting elk and taking apart my gun it’s amazing the places I find mud, water, pine needles, etc.  Even stainless rifles with good maintenance and access struggle with corrosion issues, So if the suppressor is not able to be disassembled how do you get these things out? Shoot them out? That sounds sketchy…
Keep in mind as I ask these questions I am a total suppressor newbie, so I am sure many have figured out how to deal with this stuff.

[dreadi]

Cleaning is as big of a deal as you want it to be. Fully welded silencers are my preference because I don't want to take apart baffles to clean. If you're really in to getting everything clean as if it came straight the box from the factory, you're not going to be be able to do that with fully welded cans. You'd be better off looking at silencers that have removable baffles/cups/mono core baffle.  Every company for every suppressor has instructions for cleaning. Some of them, just soak in CLP and then shoot it. Others can take a more detailed approach with multiple methods.

Silencers are made from the same materials that your firearms are made from. Steel, titanium, aluminum, stelllite, are all used to make them and I'm sure there more substrates that I don't have memorized. They are designed to do their job and not die on impact from a normal drop. They aren't impervious to abuse or misuse and most companies have strong warranties in place. I've exercised a warranty repair before and it only cost me shipping one way. Now if you go tumbling down a mountain with it on the end of your rifle doing cartwheels, who knows?

Thank you

No doubt, I am not looking for them to be surviving abuse, or at least anything more than rifles typically do. But hunting hard in the rainforest is bordering on abuse (I am sure many would consider it fully abusive!). I am guessing the suppressor walls are not as thick as a rifle barrel, so it’s good to hear if it gets wacked against a tree for example the suppressor won’t dent. 

After a day of hunting elk and taking apart my gun it’s amazing the places I find mud, water, pine needles, etc.  Even stainless rifles with good maintenance and access struggle with corrosion issues, So if the suppressor is not able to be disassembled how do you get these things out? Shoot them out? That sounds sketchy…
Keep in mind as I ask these questions I am a total suppressor newbie, so I am sure many have figured out how to deal with this stuff.

You're correct. There usually is not as much material between the bore and outer diameter on a silencer as there is a on a rifle barrel. They would get heavy quickly if they did.

I hear you on the cleaning aspect. I get a few firearms a year after hunting seasons that need to be refinished and you're correct about all of that. However, here's some videos about cleaning.

Yes, upon initial thought, it does seem like shooting a suppressor with stuff inside would be sketchy but, many suppressors are designed to be shot wet. That means, you can immerse the device in water and still shoot it while it's mostly full of water, above the surface of the water.  Therefore, a few pine needles aren't an issue.  With as many members as we have here, if someone were to have an issue/malfunction/catastrophic failure of their suppressor related to your concerns while out hunting, we would have heard about it. You could probably get a box of magnum condoms and pull one over the bore if you're really concerned about it.

Some silencer are wipe compatible. A wipe is normally a piece of neoprene at the front of the suppressor and is a solid piece until it's shot through. Wipes help bring the sound level down a bit more and could serve as a block for falling debris.

I don't mind all the questions. I'm here to help/sell 

[Sundance]

Solvent traps are cheap.....

With the current state of the Form 1 community and the ATF denying hundreds of F1 applications yesterday there won’t be any “solvent trap” suppliers by the end of the week.

[10mmg]

There are sleeves for your suppressor that prevent heat mirage from multiple shots that would add a lot of fall protection and weather protection.

[James]

Cleaning is as big of a deal as you want it to be. Fully welded silencers are my preference because I don't want to take apart baffles to clean. If you're really in to getting everything clean as if it came straight the box from the factory, you're not going to be be able to do that with fully welded cans. You'd be better off looking at silencers that have removable baffles/cups/mono core baffle.  Every company for every suppressor has instructions for cleaning. Some of them, just soak in CLP and then shoot it. Others can take a more detailed approach with multiple methods.

Silencers are made from the same materials that your firearms are made from. Steel, titanium, aluminum, stelllite, are all used to make them and I'm sure there more substrates that I don't have memorized. They are designed to do their job and not die on impact from a normal drop. They aren't impervious to abuse or misuse and most companies have strong warranties in place. I've exercised a warranty repair before and it only cost me shipping one way. Now if you go tumbling down a mountain with it on the end of your rifle doing cartwheels, who knows?

Thank you

No doubt, I am not looking for them to be surviving abuse, or at least anything more than rifles typically do. But hunting hard in the rainforest is bordering on abuse (I am sure many would consider it fully abusive!). I am guessing the suppressor walls are not as thick as a rifle barrel, so it’s good to hear if it gets wacked against a tree for example the suppressor won’t dent. 

After a day of hunting elk and taking apart my gun it’s amazing the places I find mud, water, pine needles, etc.  Even stainless rifles with good maintenance and access struggle with corrosion issues, So if the suppressor is not able to be disassembled how do you get these things out? Shoot them out? That sounds sketchy…
Keep in mind as I ask these questions I am a total suppressor newbie, so I am sure many have figured out how to deal with this stuff.

You're correct. There usually is not as much material between the bore and outer diameter on a silencer as there is a on a rifle barrel. They would get heavy quickly if they did.

I hear you on the cleaning aspect. I get a few firearms a year after hunting seasons that need to be refinished and you're correct about all of that. However, here's some videos about cleaning.

Yes, upon initial thought, it does seem like shooting a suppressor with stuff inside would be sketchy but, many suppressors are designed to be shot wet. That means, you can immerse the device in water and still shoot it while it's mostly full of water, above the surface of the water.  Therefore, a few pine needles aren't an issue.  With as many members as we have here, if someone were to have an issue/malfunction/catastrophic failure of their suppressor related to your concerns while out hunting, we would have heard about it. You could probably get a box of magnum condoms and pull one over the bore if you're really concerned about it.

Some silencer are wipe compatible. A wipe is normally a piece of neoprene at the front of the suppressor and is a solid piece until it's shot through. Wipes help bring the sound level down a bit more and could serve as a block for falling debris.

I don't mind all the questions. I'm here to help/sell 

Thank you!

Watching the first video where he was talking about carbon buildup and carbon burn off gave me flashbacks to heat transfer and designing heat exchangers with regards to fouling factor!!!

[dreadi]

There are sleeves for your suppressor that prevent heat mirage from multiple shots that would add a lot of fall protection and weather protection.

Thanks for chiming in with that. I use a couple Cole-tac covers to keep the mirage down.  They really do make a difference.

[dreadi]

A demonstration of the Tactical Solutions X-Ring TSS integrally suppressd barrel for 10/22 frames turned into a friendly competition to see who could hit the steel at 100yds without sights.  I lost. It be like that sometimes.  It sure is quiet though, and look how compact and handy this little package is.

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