Buffalo Bore 9mm outdoorsman

[Night goat]

I was under the impression that my 9mm is inadequate for a woods gun for around Washington, and was pricing out a 10mm Glock 20 until somebody mentioned that Buffalo bore makes a hard cast heavy hitting 9mm round, and upon further reading on their website it states even shows a guy who 86ed a grizzly in Alaska with a 9mm with these Buffalo bore outdoorsman rounds

NOT MY FIRST CHOICE BY ANY MEANS against a grizzly, I always carried a 12 gauge up north, however it got me thinking whether or not these hard cast bullets with a +p rating would be sufficient for the black bears commonly encountered.

I want to get up into the high county more this summer and don’t have an issue buying a new gun however I am curious to hear what has to be said about these loads and whether or not the sales pitch is misleading

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=108

[Bigshooter]

Good round.  But I wouldn't spend more than .00001% of my time worrying about black bears.

[craigapphunt]

I carry a G19 loaded up with the 147 grain outdoorsmans and don't feel under gunned in western washington.

[Dan-o]

I have a 10mm, so I tend to carry it in the woods, but if I only had a 9 I wouldn't worry about it. 

How many black bear attacks in the west the last 10 years?
I don't know, but I'm guessing not many.

[thinkingman]

I carry BB 158gr Outdoorsman 38+P in my 6" revolver and it will hit as hard as any 357mag out of a snubbie and I am a believer in hardcast lead.
I would totally run 9mm +P for handgun rounds.
Better rounds on target than a bigger bullet hitting dirt.

[pianoman9701]

Good round.  But I wouldn't spend more than .00001% of my time worrying about black bears.

[Night goat]

I have a 10mm, so I tend to carry it in the woods, but if I only had a 9 I wouldn't worry about it. 

How many black bear attacks in the west the last 10 years?
I don't know, but I'm guessing not many.

I guess the Alaska logic is hard to get rid of, considering it’s unthinkable to go anywhere except in town without something big, i guess I’ve been conditioned that way. Still, going up to some high lake fly fishing and camping out for a day or two smelling fishy has me bringing up this topic

I mean obviously no excuse not to be smart in the woods but can’t help but to think about added insurance

[Dan-o]

Lol

I get it.

I've only fished Alaska rivers a handful of times, but I would have felt better with a belt fed 50 BMG. 

[Jonathan_S]

Good round.  But I wouldn't spend more than .00001% of my time worrying about black bears.

Well I've not spent a million days in the woods but I have had the opportunity to wear a live black bear and I'd not write off the possibility of an attack.

[Platensek-po]

Good round.  But I wouldn't spend more than .00001% of my time worrying about black bears.

Well I've not spent a million days in the woods but I have had the opportunity to wear a live black bear and I'd not write off the possibility of an attack.

My mother in law has a decent scar on her shoulder from a black bear in Colorado some 25-30yrs ago

[Night goat]

I guess the thing about my 9mm is it holds 12+1 so when in doubt empty the clip


Seriously though that makes me feel a lot better (my wallet too)

I’ll just get the Buffalo bores and if a situation ever does occur I’ll be prepared

[Dan-o]

Good round.  But I wouldn't spend more than .00001% of my time worrying about black bears.

Well I've not spent a million days in the woods but I have had the opportunity to wear a live black bear and I'd not write off the possibility of an attack.

So I know there are a few attacks.

That had to be scarier than crap. 

Glad you're here to tell the tale.

[greenhead_killer]

If you’re gonna buy a new gun for bears, go get a keltec pmr-30. 30 rounds of 22 mag and it’s super light/accurate. I know quite a few guys packing those for the bears we have here.

[Jonathan_S]

Good round.  But I wouldn't spend more than .00001% of my time worrying about black bears.

Well I've not spent a million days in the woods but I have had the opportunity to wear a live black bear and I'd not write off the possibility of an attack.

So I know there are a few attacks.

That had to be scarier than crap. 

Glad you're here to tell the tale.

Thanks D.

And yes a sidearm would have helped tremendously. Or even a rifle not strapped to the back of my backpack

[RB]

I picked up the Buffalo Bore +p .45 ACP loads a couple years ago, before the panic, and love them! They work great in my Kimber Ultra Carry, and I have heard a lot of good things about the hard cast lead bullets.