need to burn points

[Fire8263]

Moved to Montana and want to use up my Washington points, I have 17 points and have an eastern muzzy tag. any suggestions?

[Ridgerunner]

Put in with the fewest number of applicants.  Hope you draw and then figure out the unit.  Problem with muzzy hunts is there are so few tags for each hunt points dont really matter too much.

[Pathfinder101]

Best odds look like Prescott Unit.  Unless you know someone though, you would probably have a terrible time finding elk.  I live here and I honestly don't know where I would go to kill an elk there. 
Next best choice looks like Watershed.  At least there's elk in there... trouble is that you'd be competing with rifle hunters for a bull. 

As mentioned above, anything else is a complete crap-shoot.  Odds are so low that your points mean very little.  I have 20 points this year...

[Karl Blanchard]

Your points have no value. They were a lotto ticket. You paid for a chance to win a tag. Thats it. Accept this fact, burn your tag and dive head first into the glory which is resident MT hunting and fishing 

[muleyslayer]

Your points have no value. They were a lotto ticket. You paid for a chance to win a tag. Thats it. Accept this fact, burn your tag and dive head first into the glory which is resident MT hunting and fishing 

Sad but true, the goHUNT insider has made this really hit home for me! 0 points or 30 its all the same!

[Mtnwalker]

Your points have no value. They were a lotto ticket. You paid for a chance to win a tag. Thats it. Accept this fact, burn your tag and dive head first into the glory which is resident MT hunting and fishing 

  100%. There really is no “burning points” here in WA. Even with your 17 points you’re looking at less than a 10% chance for any quality muzz tag and a lot of those aren’t very quality anyways 

[jackelope]

I'd put in for a less than prime permit and see what happens. If you don't draw, take Karl's route.
Observatory comes to mind as one I'd probably look at. Some other Yakima area units like Bethel or Bumping or Rimrock or something like that. Not the Colockum.

[Limhangerslayer]

Rimrock is your best chance, but like was said before.  In this shathole state there is no such thing as burning points.

[Magnum_Willys]

Moved to Montana and want to use up my Washington points, I have 17 points and have an eastern muzzy tag. any suggestions?

Washington    

[Fire8263]

Awesome thanks guys, any thoughts on Mountain View? I Have access to horses.

[elkchaser54]

Mountainview added the state land 4-O ranch to that tag so enty of farm fields to hunt on . Wouldn't need horses for that section of that unit.  Central WA tags would be easier to draw with more available compared to the blues with single digits available for each unit. 

But remember Washington is a lottery random draw . Points are just a catalyst to increase your hope not your odds.

[fishngamereaper]

Swap your muzzy tag for archery and we can buddy up...I'll burn your points for ya ..

Otherwise I defer to what others have said.

[D-Rock425]

 

Swap your muzzy tag for archery and we can buddy up...I'll burn your points for ya ..

Otherwise I defer to what others have said.

[NRA4LIFE]

There's no such thing as burning points in this state.  Unless you've somehow managed to turn in 10000 poachers.

[kentrek]

Put in for what ever you want...nothing says you can't put in next year with 18

[gee_unit360]

Go archery.

[actionshooter]

Put in for what ever you want...nothing says you can't put in next year with 18

  If I was moving to Montana, I'm pretty sure Washington wouldn't be getting any more money..... but that does bring up a good question, what's it cost for a non resident to apply for permits   Maybe keep playing WaLotto for a good tag?

[Bob33]

A non-resident elk license is about $500.

[Magnum_Willys]

A non-resident elk license is about $500.

If I recall the apps were around $145?   Anyone look?

[Bob33]

A non-resident elk license is about $500.

If I recall the apps were around $145?   Anyone look?

$110 for a non res application, plus the license.

[cem3434]

Wouldn't you have to buy a non-resident tag to apply too? As a resident, you have to buy a tag and specific and I would assume the same to be true for non-residents. Sound like it would pretty expensive to apply with the non-resident license, tag and app fee, without any money being refunded. Like others have said, switch to archery and go for one of the easier tags to draw. When I move out of this hell hole of a liberal cesspool, WDFW won't get one more single cent from me.

[Bob33]

Wouldn't you have to buy a non-resident tag to apply too? As a resident, you have to buy a tag and specific and I would assume the same to be true for non-residents. Sound like it would pretty expensive to apply with the non-resident license, tag and app fee, without any money being refunded. Like others have said, switch to archery and go for one of the easier tags to draw. When I move out of this hell hole of a liberal cesspool, WDFW won't get one more single cent from me.

He would need to buy a license to apply for elk. The license includes a tag.

[kentrek]

Put in for what ever you want...nothing says you can't put in next year with 18

  If I was moving to Montana, I'm pretty sure Washington wouldn't be getting any more money..... but that does bring up a good question, what's it cost for a non resident to apply for permits   Maybe keep playing WaLotto for a good tag?

It depends on the tag he wants and his odds....but realistically he could draw alot of tags over the next few years...that would be worth the price

Need to look at the tag, the odds, the cost...compare that to other states & your budget

Now if he had zero points he would be much better off putting the non resident cost of applying into a index fund every year and see what's in that account after 20 years and just buying a tag

[boneaddict]

Your points have no value. They were a lotto ticket. You paid for a chance to win a tag. Thats it. Accept this fact, burn your tag and dive head first into the glory which is resident MT hunting and fishing 

Pretty much spot on.   Don’t look back.   

[cem3434]

Wouldn't you have to buy a non-resident tag to apply too? As a resident, you have to buy a tag and specific and I would assume the same to be true for non-residents. Sound like it would pretty expensive to apply with the non-resident license, tag and app fee, without any money being refunded. Like others have said, switch to archery and go for one of the easier tags to draw. When I move out of this hell hole of a liberal cesspool, WDFW won't get one more single cent from me.

He would need to buy a license to apply for elk. The license includes a tag.

We are debating semantics I guess. You can buy a license without buying a tag. I was just clarifying that you have to buy a hunting license, a specific elk tag and then an application for the special draws. Regardless, I think you are talking about over $600 all in as a non-resident. With the quality here versus other western states, I would spend my money elsewhere. Like Karl said, don't look back once you hit that state line   

[jackelope]

No refunds here either if you don’t draw.

[Bob33]

No refunds here either if you don’t draw.

But don't forget you can turn your permit in and get your 17 non-resident points back.

[dreamingbig]

Moved to Montana and want to use up my Washington points, I have 17 points and have an eastern muzzy tag. any suggestions?

They really aren’t worth anything.  Less than 5% draw odds or worse.


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[dreamingbig]

Your points have no value. They were a lotto ticket. You paid for a chance to win a tag. Thats it. Accept this fact, burn your tag and dive head first into the glory which is resident MT hunting and fishing 

Amen


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[dreamingbig]

Put in for what ever you want...nothing says you can't put in next year with 18

  If I was moving to Montana, I'm pretty sure Washington wouldn't be getting any more money..... but that does bring up a good question, what's it cost for a non resident to apply for permits   Maybe keep playing WaLotto for a good tag?

Expensive but non-residents are in the same hat so no limit on how many of the tags they can draw.


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[Pathfinder101]

Put in for what ever you want...nothing says you can't put in next year with 18

  If I was moving to Montana, I'm pretty sure Washington wouldn't be getting any more money..... but that does bring up a good question, what's it cost for a non resident to apply for permits   Maybe keep playing WaLotto for a good tag?

Expensive but non-residents are in the same hat so no limit on how many of the tags they can draw.


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That seems like an expensive proposition to me, with not a lot of payoff.  I would try to burn my points in WA while you are still a "resident" by drawing something that has decent odds.  If you don't draw... I'd take a bunch of people's advice here and dive into being a Montana resident and don't look back.   

[dreamingbig]

Pathfinder - agreed.  I was just pointing out that they still have the same crappy odds but at a higher price.


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[Mtnwalker]

Well the odds were not in your favor but looks like you managed to draw a tag and burn your points! Pretty awesome, congrats on the draw should be a sweet hunt! 

[Pathfinder101]

Well the odds were not in your favor but looks like you managed to draw a tag and burn your points! Pretty awesome, congrats on the draw should be a sweet hunt! 

That's great.  What tag did he draw?

[Fire8263]

I drew observatory muzzleloader. crazy I drew on my last year putting in!

[Pathfinder101]

I drew observatory muzzleloader. crazy I drew on my last year putting in!

Congratulations!  I think it's awesome that worked out for you.     Make sure you post pictures! 

[Fire8263]

Will do! Pretty pumped!

[Dr.Wise]

Mountainview added the state land 4-O ranch to that tag so enty of farm fields to hunt on . Wouldn't need horses for that section of that unit.  Central WA tags would be easier to draw with more available compared to the blues with single digits available for each unit. 

But remember Washington is a lottery random draw . Points are just a catalyst to increase your hope not your odds.

Do you know with the 4-0 ranch if you can drive a 4 wheeler or side by side in?


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[Igottanewknee]

I drew observatory muzzleloader. crazy I drew on my last year putting in!

Serendipity! Shoot a big one!