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Re: Year round Bull Elk season
« Reply #135 on: July 01, 2021, 09:10:09 AM »
The Colville tribe is the example of management, the yakamas, how not to manage. I’ve always hoped the colville tribe would set a good example and the rest would follow. Maybe someday when the herd numbers get even worse??

Who’s to say the yakamas don’t manage well? I bet they have plenty of trophy class animals on the Rez since they seem to like to hunt off the Rez so much.
Well, zero limits on deer and elk to start with sounds like great management.  And then ignore their own rules on selling meat, and then not reporting numbers to Wdfw. Just to name a few things that help w management.  I have a feeling the hunting is better in the colockum, and the YTC, that’s a favorite spot for some.
That's why the hunt off the rez because they have pretty much depleted the animals on the rez

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Ceded land is considered the rez and the rez is doing just fine.

If that’s the case why don’t you manage some of the wolves for us.
Would be glad to.
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Re: Year round Bull Elk season
« Reply #136 on: July 01, 2021, 09:42:41 AM »
The Colville tribe is the example of management, the yakamas, how not to manage. I’ve always hoped the colville tribe would set a good example and the rest would follow. Maybe someday when the herd numbers get even worse??

Who’s to say the yakamas don’t manage well? I bet they have plenty of trophy class animals on the Rez since they seem to like to hunt off the Rez so much.
Well, zero limits on deer and elk to start with sounds like great management.  And then ignore their own rules on selling meat, and then not reporting numbers to Wdfw. Just to name a few things that help w management.  I have a feeling the hunting is better in the colockum, and the YTC, that’s a favorite spot for some.
That's why the hunt off the rez because they have pretty much depleted the animals on the rez

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Ceded land is considered the rez and the rez is doing just fine.

If that’s the case why don’t you manage some of the wolves for us.
Would be glad to.
All I'm gonna add is
+1 to the coliville tribe ,They do have Bag limits and season dates. And do pop a wolf now and again.

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Re: Year round Bull Elk season
« Reply #137 on: July 01, 2021, 10:01:01 AM »
 Ah yawn! I must be bored to even open this thread and read some of the posts. It reminds me of the infinity loop, maybe Newtons Cradle is a better metaphor of this argument? Ya i think it would be on further analysis. Anywho carry on and solve this problem.  :hello:

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Re: Year round Bull Elk season
« Reply #138 on: July 01, 2021, 10:03:55 AM »
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Re: Year round Bull Elk season
« Reply #139 on: July 01, 2021, 11:45:35 AM »
The Colville tribe is the example of management, the yakamas, how not to manage. I’ve always hoped the colville tribe would set a good example and the rest would follow. Maybe someday when the herd numbers get even worse??

Who’s to say the yakamas don’t manage well? I bet they have plenty of trophy class animals on the Rez since they seem to like to hunt off the Rez so much.
Well, zero limits on deer and elk to start with sounds like great management.  And then ignore their own rules on selling meat, and then not reporting numbers to Wdfw. Just to name a few things that help w management.  I have a feeling the hunting is better in the colockum, and the YTC, that’s a favorite spot for some.
That's why the hunt off the rez because they have pretty much depleted the animals on the rez

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Ceded land is considered the rez and the rez is doing just fine.

If that’s the case why don’t you manage some of the wolves for us.
Would be glad to.

Pretty sure we can all get on board with that


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Re: Year round Bull Elk season
« Reply #140 on: July 01, 2021, 12:05:51 PM »
The Colville tribe is the example of management, the yakamas, how not to manage. I’ve always hoped the colville tribe would set a good example and the rest would follow. Maybe someday when the herd numbers get even worse??

Who’s to say the yakamas don’t manage well? I bet they have plenty of trophy class animals on the Rez since they seem to like to hunt off the Rez so much.
Well, zero limits on deer and elk to start with sounds like great management.  And then ignore their own rules on selling meat, and then not reporting numbers to Wdfw. Just to name a few things that help w management.  I have a feeling the hunting is better in the colockum, and the YTC, that’s a favorite spot for some.
That's why the hunt off the rez because they have pretty much depleted the animals on the rez

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Ceded land is considered the rez and the rez is doing just fine.

If that’s the case why don’t you manage some of the wolves for us.
Would be glad to.

Why aren't you? Why aren't all of you? You've paid attention to what has happened to the elk in Yellowstone? In northern Idaho?

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Re: Year round Bull Elk season
« Reply #141 on: July 01, 2021, 12:35:46 PM »
No money in it on the wolf end the ones who tend to abuse and poach or over harvest in all user groups aren’t doing it cause their hungry it’s all about the money and when there is no market for a dead wolf those user groups will keep their attention where they can make a profit has zero to do with management same reason over harvest of elk is generally mature bulls not cause they eat better but there is a hell of a market on antlers

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Re: Year round Bull Elk season
« Reply #142 on: July 01, 2021, 12:38:35 PM »
No money in it on the wolf end the ones who tend to abuse and poach or over harvest in all user groups aren’t doing it cause their hungry it’s all about the money and when there is no market for a dead wolf those user groups will keep their attention where they can make a profit has zero to do with management same reason over harvest of elk is generally mature bulls not cause they eat better but there is a hell of a market on antlers
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Re: Year round Bull Elk season
« Reply #143 on: July 02, 2021, 06:25:32 AM »
No money in it directly, but if they want that mature bull money then they should be looking out after the elk and going after wolves.

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Re: Year round Bull Elk season
« Reply #144 on: July 02, 2021, 07:15:42 AM »
I thought a wolf pelt is like a gold bar.
But I don't really know. :dunno: :dunno:

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Re: Year round Bull Elk season
« Reply #145 on: July 03, 2021, 12:59:13 PM »
I thought a wolf pelt is like a gold bar.
But I don't really know. :dunno: :dunno:
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They are not gold bars but they bring really good money

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Re: Year round Bull Elk season
« Reply #146 on: July 03, 2021, 01:04:05 PM »
No money in it on the wolf end the ones who tend to abuse and poach or over harvest in all user groups aren’t doing it cause their hungry it’s all about the money and when there is no market for a dead wolf those user groups will keep their attention where they can make a profit has zero to do with management same reason over harvest of elk is generally mature bulls not cause they eat better but there is a hell of a market on antlers
 

They could make good money selling wolf hides and a few more dollars with skulls and as mentioned help the elk they hunt or over hunt. You should try and get an organization like Idaho where members could reimburse money spent for dead wolves to natives. They would be getting paid 2 ways but they could make good money just selling pelts.

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Re: Year round Bull Elk season
« Reply #147 on: July 03, 2021, 01:07:12 PM »
The Colville tribe is the example of management, the yakamas, how not to manage. I’ve always hoped the colville tribe would set a good example and the rest would follow. Maybe someday when the herd numbers get even worse??

Who’s to say the yakamas don’t manage well? I bet they have plenty of trophy class animals on the Rez since they seem to like to hunt off the Rez so much.
Well, zero limits on deer and elk to start with sounds like great management.  And then ignore their own rules on selling meat, and then not reporting numbers to Wdfw. Just to name a few things that help w management.  I have a feeling the hunting is better in the colockum, and the YTC, that’s a favorite spot for some.
That's why the hunt off the rez because they have pretty much depleted the animals on the rez

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk
Ceded land is considered the rez and the rez is doing just fine.

If that’s the case why don’t you manage some of the wolves for us.
Would be glad to.
 

What would it take to get you and other tribal members to aggressively hunt wolves?

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Re: Year round Bull Elk season
« Reply #148 on: July 03, 2021, 02:35:19 PM »
The Colville tribe is the example of management, the yakamas, how not to manage. I’ve always hoped the colville tribe would set a good example and the rest would follow. Maybe someday when the herd numbers get even worse??

Who’s to say the yakamas don’t manage well? I bet they have plenty of trophy class animals on the Rez since they seem to like to hunt off the Rez so much.
Well, zero limits on deer and elk to start with sounds like great management.  And then ignore their own rules on selling meat, and then not reporting numbers to Wdfw. Just to name a few things that help w management.  I have a feeling the hunting is better in the colockum, and the YTC, that’s a favorite spot for some.
That's why the hunt off the rez because they have pretty much depleted the animals on the rez

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk
Ceded land is considered the rez and the rez is doing just fine.

If that’s the case why don’t you manage some of the wolves for us.
Would be glad to.
 

What would it take to get you and other tribal members to aggressively hunt wolves?
Money!
“In common with”..... not so much!!

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Re: Year round Bull Elk season
« Reply #149 on: July 03, 2021, 03:45:29 PM »
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