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No Vandeman, that's the ditch. They got in the road but still suffocated and succumbed to the heat and smoke. Our guys are placing new poles and messenger wire and the copper splicer is rehabbing telephone equipment that was cooked. This pic is right next to him.
It's awful, I was hesitant to even post the animal but it is what it is and people should see what happens when you don't practice proper forestry health and fire abatement. It's sickening even. I have been places and seen so many downed trees crisscrossing a hillside that nothing can get through but a squirrel. This needs to stop.
Quote from: LDennis24 on July 14, 2021, 02:57:47 PMIt's awful, I was hesitant to even post the animal but it is what it is and people should see what happens when you don't practice proper forestry health and fire abatement. It's sickening even. I have been places and seen so many downed trees crisscrossing a hillside that nothing can get through but a squirrel. This needs to stop.Logging helps with thinning out the canopy, but unless there's a magical chill pill to feed people in the west to stop hating on burning, not much will change. Can go back east and people often ask when you're going to burn behind their backyard next. Should be like that in the west coast with those same thoughts as ponderosa pine forests aren't much different. Way too many years suppressing fires (both lightning and human) messed up the landscape and destroyed historic fire return intervals in many places. I've talked to a few state and U.S. Legislators across both party lines about this issue in the last year. Last one I talked to was last week after they opened their property gate for me to get closer to a small lightning fire. The Republicans I talked with about fire are slowly changing their stances on prescribed fire as more and more peer-reviewed studies come out. Some of them are actually supportive of paying the guys and gals who fight fire a liveable wage for once and support year round positions that will entail fuels reduction in the United States in the winters which many people know is lacking.
Are you ready to pay more for access and permits to bolster the forest service budgets.Let me guess they have plenty of money and resources to do the job needed.I for one am willing to contribute more. They have way more land to manage than budget.
Quote from: Moose Master on July 18, 2021, 08:31:29 PMAre you ready to pay more for access and permits to bolster the forest service budgets.Let me guess they have plenty of money and resources to do the job needed.I for one am willing to contribute more. They have way more land to manage than budget.The Forest Service has billions and billions of dollars in timber that they don't harvest. Their funding woes are entirely self inflicted when they're sitting on an enormous amount of job creating, dollar generating resources that they won't tap. Instead we pay millions upon millions every year fighting fire and watching the resource go up in smoke. A lot of these could be put out sooner too, but they tear out roads left and right, not only shutting off the public from accessing large swaths of the forest, but also crippling response time to these fires. They are really a dumpster fire of an agency.
Quote from: Alan K on July 18, 2021, 08:41:00 PMQuote from: Moose Master on July 18, 2021, 08:31:29 PMAre you ready to pay more for access and permits to bolster the forest service budgets.Let me guess they have plenty of money and resources to do the job needed.I for one am willing to contribute more. They have way more land to manage than budget.The Forest Service has billions and billions of dollars in timber that they don't harvest. Their funding woes are entirely self inflicted when they're sitting on an enormous amount of job creating, dollar generating resources that they won't tap. Instead we pay millions upon millions every year fighting fire and watching the resource go up in smoke. A lot of these could be put out sooner too, but they tear out roads left and right, not only shutting off the public from accessing large swaths of the forest, but also crippling response time to these fires. They are really a dumpster fire of an agency.A bunch of the fires I respond to these days are with a UTV. Engine sits idle far far away. Only so much a chainsaw and a shovel can do to keep a road open. Spend most of the time these days clearing roads and culverts that used to be cleared by roads crews and logging contractors, but now days you're lucky to see a roads person or crew anywhere!
Quote from: Naches Sportsman on July 18, 2021, 08:46:49 PMQuote from: Alan K on July 18, 2021, 08:41:00 PMQuote from: Moose Master on July 18, 2021, 08:31:29 PMAre you ready to pay more for access and permits to bolster the forest service budgets.Let me guess they have plenty of money and resources to do the job needed.I for one am willing to contribute more. They have way more land to manage than budget.The Forest Service has billions and billions of dollars in timber that they don't harvest. Their funding woes are entirely self inflicted when they're sitting on an enormous amount of job creating, dollar generating resources that they won't tap. Instead we pay millions upon millions every year fighting fire and watching the resource go up in smoke. A lot of these could be put out sooner too, but they tear out roads left and right, not only shutting off the public from accessing large swaths of the forest, but also crippling response time to these fires. They are really a dumpster fire of an agency.A bunch of the fires I respond to these days are with a UTV. Engine sits idle far far away. Only so much a chainsaw and a shovel can do to keep a road open. Spend most of the time these days clearing roads and culverts that used to be cleared by roads crews and logging contractors, but now days you're lucky to see a roads person or crew anywhere!Thanks for the info and your work.
