Nightforce SHV 5-20?

[trophyhunt]

I'm out of the loop and don't understand a damn thing you all are yappin about!    I love my huskemaw, just dial the yardage and shoot, keep it simple stupid for me!

[Karl Blanchard]

I'm out of the loop and don't understand a damn thing you all are yappin about!    I love my huskemaw, just dial the yardage and shoot, keep it simple stupid for me!

hypothetical here. You have an shv and a zeiss v4. Your shot calls for 17.5 moa come up. With the shv you would dial to 10, and then up another 7.5 moa. With the zeiss you dial to 17.5. Small difference but in the heat of the moment, less math is more better. North of 20 moa then you gotta really start paying attention as you're now off your zero by two full revolutions.

[jrebel]

300wsm - 10 MOA gets me out to 550 yards....with 600 yards being 11.  I don't break the 20 MOA till I am at 1000 yards.  In most hunting scenarios people will not be making a full revolution. 
6.5 creed - 10 MOA gets me out to 500 yards.  20 MOA to 800 and 30 MOA at 1000. 


In most hunting scenarios people will not be making a full revolution.  When you have to....adding in 10's is super easy.   Again...not trying to be argumentative, just realistic.  I own both 10 and 20 moa per revolution scopes and we are really splitting hairs.  I can run both with ease and think other than preference, there is no advantage or disadvantage to either. 

[Karl Blanchard]

Guy asked for opinions so I gave it. Once again, gun to your head, same exact scopes, but one is a 10 turret and one is a 20 turret and you can only pick one. Guarantee everyone picks the 20. Also, hunting was not mentioned as an intended use. Maybe he wants to delve into longe range target shooting or a bit of both. More user friendly features isn't a bad thing.

[jrebel]

Guy asked for opinions so I gave it. Once again, gun to your head, same exact scopes, but one is a 10 turret and one is a 20 turret and you can only pick one. Guarantee everyone picks the 20.

Your a hard charger on your opinion.....So am I...and I would say for the guy just getting into this style of scope (ie posting on a hunting forum asking about the SHV), looking to shot 1000 yards.....your wrong.  But that's why I appreciate your opinion Karl....you have one and you stick to it.    Nothing personal, just a little sporting at times. 

I think this post offers a lot of good insight and the OP should be able to make an informed decision.  I have and shoot 4 SHV's and like them equally as well as my more expensive NSX.  For the money savings...a guy can learn to count by 10.       Not to mention the SHV has graduations on the turret body that will actually tell you when you make a full revolution so you don't have to wonder what revolution your on, in the instance you have to dial 40 MOA for that 1.5 mile shot across county lines.  Poking fun is all.....nothing personal.   

[Karl Blanchard]

Ha! Pot meet kettle j I get the argument but he wanted opinions but also alternatives. There's alternates to the shv with the same or more features for the same price point or less (though few). And let's be real, this may be "hunting-washington" but its definitely not a hunting forum. Theres as much or more shooting, fishing, politics, etc talk as there is hunting.

I still want an answer, gun to your head, 10 moa turret or a 20 moa turret. Can't have both 

[jrebel]

Ha! Pot meet kettle j I get the argument but he wanted opinions but also alternatives. There's alternates to the shv with the same or more features for the same price point or less (though few). And let's be real, this may be "hunting-washington" but its definitely not a hunting forum. Theres as much or more shooting, fishing, politics, etc talk as there is hunting.

I still want an answer, gun to your head, 10 moa turret or a 20 moa turret. Can't have both 

Unlimited funds for any scope I can buy??  I need more information with the "gun to my head" scenario.  Just to save my life....I take the less expensive 10 moa turret so I live and keep my money.  If money isn't an issue I take the more expensive scopes that don't come in 10 moa so I have to deal with the 20 moa turret (no pros or cons to either except price).  Do I want repeatability and reliability or just looking for any scope to save me life?  See how this plays out? 

Cheap(er) tough as nails, reliable, repeatable, etc....for an entry level scope to introduce someone to dial turrets....It's my opinion the SHV can't be beat.  I am clearly biased though...and I have seen other guys spend less or buy other brands and be sorely disappointed with dependability and repeatability.  I have yet to hear of anyone complain nightforce is not repeatable with its turrets.   

Only downside to the SHV is it's weight.  Nightforce is not known for lighter weight scopes, but with weight comes toughness. 

Honestly.....I could care less if it were 10 or 20 moa turrets!!  You have yet to answer why one is better than the other....with the exception of saying you don't have to go a full revolution to get past 10 moa. 

And yes...there are other options out there.  I have yet to find one in that price range that compares apples to apples.  Another nice feature of the SHV, it has a capped windage turret which protects it from getting bumped or changed if in a scabbard or riding on your back / pack all day long.  I never dial windage so I really appreciate that feature.   

[Karl Blanchard]

Its a hypothetical.  Same exact scopes. Completely identical except one has a 10 moa turret and one has a 20 moa turret. Thats it. Which one are you choosing?


I've already stated that the 10 moa turret isn't necessarily a negative but it is a less desirable feature vs other scopes in its category. Let's compare to the v4 since bullblaster mentioned it. 20 moa turret, capped windage, solid mechanical zero stop, more reticle options (i prefer the t30 or the reticle over the moar) , sub 25oz, solid rep for repeatability. I'd use a shv in a heart beat but with scopes like the v4, I wouldn't even entertain one. Different strokes for different folks

[trophyhunt]

Huskemaw, dial and shoot up to 1000 yards without adding.   

[Karl Blanchard]

Huskemaw, dial and shoot up to 1000 yards without adding.   

nevermind those pesky atmospheric  conditions that can change your poi by feet....


 

[brocka]

Huskemaw, dial and shoot up to 1000 yards without adding.   

nevermind those pesky atmospheric  conditions that can change your poi by feet....


 

Um, that's not what the YouTube heroes told me...

[b23]

To  I'd buy a used NXS with HS ZS over a brand new SHV every time.  I'm a NF fan but I've just never really warmed up to their SHV and not because it lacks HS turrets, although, to Karl's point, you don't ever hear anyone wishing they had less MOA per revolution on the ups. 

[BULLBLASTER]

anyone who spends significant time dialing and shooting would surely prefer 20per rev, though that is only one of the reasons i would (and did)pick a v4 over the shv. The others being the zerostop and weight. The dumb parts of the v4 are that the magnification ring and parallax adjustment work backerds compared to the other scopes i have.

[trophyhunt]

Huskemaw, dial and shoot up to 1000 yards without adding.   

nevermind those pesky atmospheric  conditions that can change your poi by feet....


 

comes w two turrets for elevation, and they’ll make more if you want. I have a 3,000 and a 6,000 foot turret.   

[BULLBLASTER]

Huskemaw, dial and shoot up to 1000 yards without adding.   

nevermind those pesky atmospheric  conditions that can change your poi by feet....


 

comes w two turrets for elevation, and they’ll make more if you want. I have a 3,000 and a 6,000 foot turret.   

Wait mr elk! Let me change my turrets!