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Quote from: Boss .300 winmag on September 27, 2021, 02:11:06 PMQuote from: OutHouse on September 27, 2021, 01:41:47 PMQuote from: 7mmfan on September 27, 2021, 01:15:58 PMI find it a little confusing. Are they saying that even the land adjacent to the roads that are open is off limits because it's inside the closure area? I can drive around but cannot get out and walk?There are several areas in that closure that had zero fire activity, and they have open roads adjacent to them. I cannot get out and hunt those lands? What about the trails? You can hike on the now open trails but cannot step foot off of them onto NF land because it's inside the fire closure area?I say you walk in. The sign says nothing about whether someone can still walk into these open lands. They are open now right?I called the FS up there to ask about a few roads I wanted to access and they said it will probably be in the spring when they open up. They are worried about burnt/dead trees next to the roads that are falling over or will fall soon.That such BS, what about all the prior fires in that area with all the trees they left standing that were burnt.🤬Yep, from what I understand from a “ guy” I know, if the roads are closed they are closed to ALL entry, vehicles, foot traffic etc. A lot of 218 is falling under these closers as well as north portions of 224 into some of the Ramsey and Pearrygin areas.
Quote from: OutHouse on September 27, 2021, 01:41:47 PMQuote from: 7mmfan on September 27, 2021, 01:15:58 PMI find it a little confusing. Are they saying that even the land adjacent to the roads that are open is off limits because it's inside the closure area? I can drive around but cannot get out and walk?There are several areas in that closure that had zero fire activity, and they have open roads adjacent to them. I cannot get out and hunt those lands? What about the trails? You can hike on the now open trails but cannot step foot off of them onto NF land because it's inside the fire closure area?I say you walk in. The sign says nothing about whether someone can still walk into these open lands. They are open now right?I called the FS up there to ask about a few roads I wanted to access and they said it will probably be in the spring when they open up. They are worried about burnt/dead trees next to the roads that are falling over or will fall soon.That such BS, what about all the prior fires in that area with all the trees they left standing that were burnt.🤬
Quote from: 7mmfan on September 27, 2021, 01:15:58 PMI find it a little confusing. Are they saying that even the land adjacent to the roads that are open is off limits because it's inside the closure area? I can drive around but cannot get out and walk?There are several areas in that closure that had zero fire activity, and they have open roads adjacent to them. I cannot get out and hunt those lands? What about the trails? You can hike on the now open trails but cannot step foot off of them onto NF land because it's inside the fire closure area?I say you walk in. The sign says nothing about whether someone can still walk into these open lands. They are open now right?I called the FS up there to ask about a few roads I wanted to access and they said it will probably be in the spring when they open up. They are worried about burnt/dead trees next to the roads that are falling over or will fall soon.
I find it a little confusing. Are they saying that even the land adjacent to the roads that are open is off limits because it's inside the closure area? I can drive around but cannot get out and walk?There are several areas in that closure that had zero fire activity, and they have open roads adjacent to them. I cannot get out and hunt those lands? What about the trails? You can hike on the now open trails but cannot step foot off of them onto NF land because it's inside the fire closure area?
Quote from: bigmacc on September 27, 2021, 03:18:22 PMQuote from: Boss .300 winmag on September 27, 2021, 02:11:06 PMQuote from: OutHouse on September 27, 2021, 01:41:47 PMQuote from: 7mmfan on September 27, 2021, 01:15:58 PMI find it a little confusing. Are they saying that even the land adjacent to the roads that are open is off limits because it's inside the closure area? I can drive around but cannot get out and walk?There are several areas in that closure that had zero fire activity, and they have open roads adjacent to them. I cannot get out and hunt those lands? What about the trails? You can hike on the now open trails but cannot step foot off of them onto NF land because it's inside the fire closure area?I say you walk in. The sign says nothing about whether someone can still walk into these open lands. They are open now right?I called the FS up there to ask about a few roads I wanted to access and they said it will probably be in the spring when they open up. They are worried about burnt/dead trees next to the roads that are falling over or will fall soon.That such BS, what about all the prior fires in that area with all the trees they left standing that were burnt.🤬Yep, from what I understand from a “ guy” I know, if the roads are closed they are closed to ALL entry, vehicles, foot traffic etc. A lot of 218 is falling under these closers as well as north portions of 224 into some of the Ramsey and Pearrygin areas.I would check into it further. Typically "ROAD CLOSED" signs, mean just that, the road (only) is closed to vehicular access, not walk in. The FS needs to post a "forest order" to close the land to walk in access. I am fairly positive there are CFR's that cover this.
Probably a pipe dream but hoping no one tags the 3 x3 that visits the yard just about daily as if no one does hope to conduct an unofficial experiment over the winter and spring by making a supplemental food available to see if he develops into a bigger and better specimen next year.I say pipe dream because I'm almost positive some "Hunter" over for a weekend will see the 3 points and say a legal buck pow, even if it is in town. I know that 2 years ago even having orange flagging tape on his neck someone shot his sire with a small caliber weapon in the neck that did not kill him outright and had to have a gammie put him down. Yes the same buck I took 20 feet of clothes line off his antlers after someone tried to lasso him.
I was over in that area for 3 days last week and spoke to the forest service regarding cub creek, Thompson ridge and the 200 road on Ramsey. Thompson still had hot spots. The other areas roads and fire lines were being graded and put back together. The closure signs said area behind this sign is closed for all access. Not limited to the road. Also, the mule deer herd in the twisp and Winthrop area appears to have taken a beating. I typically see at least 6 legal bucks a day on public land over there and in a total of 6 days I seen 1 WT 4x4 on state land and a dozen spikes or small 2pts. 5 legal Mule deer bucks on private. I seen at least a dozen carcasses lower Ramsey, and another dozen in the rendezvous. Tons of bear scat in the sage as well as cat tracks. Thinking maybe the 2 fires jam packed some predators into the low lands. The other thing to consider if your headed over that way is landslides. I’m guessing that any sort of major rain over there is going to cause some problems as much of both of the fires burned thru steep canyons with roads in the bottoms so have an alternate route out if your up little bridge creek, or the west chewuch towards 30 mile.
