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« on: May 02, 2009, 12:25:34 PM »
what do you guys use for gluing your inserts and nocks??
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Re: glue
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2009, 12:43:19 PM »
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Re: glue
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2009, 12:45:51 PM »
now this might be a dumb question but what is the difference between this and superglue?
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Re: glue
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2009, 12:48:44 PM »
You can heat it up and take them out . Super glue works good but your stuck forever , which is actually fine for most people   :)

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Re: glue
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2009, 10:59:15 PM »
now this might be a dumb question but what is the difference between this and superglue?

Basically the same thing except for thickness.  I use the Loctite Control Gel Super Glue.  It keeps me from making a mess all over myself.  That said, I do use Goat Tuff now and again for feathers and long, wide-based vanes.  Whatever you choose, make sure that it's relatively fresh for the best holding; six month old glue is generally destabilized to the point that a vane may or may not stick.

Be careful heating to remove!  There's a damn good chance that you can damage the composites in the carbon and end up with a seriously weakened arrow that could shatter on release and put you in the hospital.  The easier way to remove an insert is to put a small drill bit inside the arrow and swing it hard to knock the insert out.  Make sure to do it in a safe area, though, because it can come out violently.
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Re: glue
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2009, 11:01:11 PM »
On carbon arrows I use Super Glue. When the nock breaks I was able to get the bits out. Just figured out how to do that today.

First I used a swiss army knife which has the reamer with sewing eye to scrape away the innards just enough so that I could fit in my round file. Then I used a round file (the ones I used to create the string nocks on the bows I have been working on) which I pushed in just enough to grab the leftovers of the nock. I twisted it slightly to get grip and then pulled outwards.

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Re: glue
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2009, 11:05:24 PM »
thanks for the info I used super glue on my practice arrows today seemed to do fine but i think i will pick up some of the goat glue and give that a shot too.
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Re: glue
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2009, 07:43:16 AM »
I use clear nail polish on my nocks. You can then use a pair of pliers and twist back and forth then pull to remove them. On my inserts I use Bohning Powerbond. It is heat reversible. And unlike super glue does not get brittle. You insert a field tip in to the insert then heat the tip and use a pair of pliers and pull to remove it.

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Re: glue
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2009, 04:31:17 PM »
Why do you glue your nocks? on wood orrows? carbon and aluminum shouldnt need it. maybe for unibushings or pins, and hotmelt works good for those and target tips. for hunting arrows i use super glue for the inserts.

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Re: glue
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2009, 08:51:34 PM »
Yes what nocks are you guys using glue on? and why.
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Re: glue
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2009, 09:53:29 PM »
carbon express heritage. and cedar. Because I want to.

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Re: glue
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2009, 11:05:57 PM »
There is no reason to glue your nocks in carbon arrows....if the nock don't fit right then the nock is bad or the arrow is bad. The Nock is one of the most important part of the arrow.  move your nock is the best way to tune your arrows and to get BH to group
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Re: glue
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2009, 11:09:35 PM »
I moved my nock right where I wanted it to stay put. Then I glued it. That is a good reason for me to glue them. It's not a matter of right or wrong with me. It's about what I want. I want my fletching to be in the same exact spot every time on every arrow. I also do not want my nock moving or to be lost while walking through brush for some unknown reason. Glue on the nocks might be off limits because you think tuning and accuracy is more important for your situations and purpses but glue is the answer for my personal reasoning and to me - actually having a nock when I need it is more important than tuning one that might not be there.
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Re: glue
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2009, 08:35:04 AM »
you can do what you want ,But I have never had a nock fall off walk in the woods in my 25 years hunting...or move for that mather like I said if your nocks move that easy or fall out then the ARROW or the NOCK is bad. as for tuning and accuracy is the most import cuz we are taking a LIFE...so it should be important. not saying gluing your nock is wrong...just saying you don't need to.
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Re: glue
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2009, 09:07:45 AM »
how do you re align the knock to the new fletching after you re-fletch the arrow if the nock is stuck with glue? :dunno: :dunno:


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Re: glue
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2009, 09:15:23 AM »
This is all style discussion to me.

It's not wrong and does not mean an archer is  less accurate because they glue nocks. There is clearly a number of people doing it for whatever reasons. You don't have to agree with them. Just like I don't agree with anyone else's styles. Why would someone imply that if I use glue I am potentially unethical because I will not be able to harvest an animal due to the inherent inaccuracies? That's just a load of garbage in my book. People have been harvesting animals with primitive arrows and glued nocks for ages.

How do I re-align my nock? This problem is solved. I put in the exact same spot in my fletching jig. In fact it makes it even easier when refletching because the nock is glued. My accuracy is not a problem. You can come shoot my bows side by side with me any time. We'll see who hits the bullseye more with my arrows and with yours. Also, you may not have had any nocks fall out but this gluing gives me comfort which obviously your word does not.

I could ask someone why they need rangefinders too.  :o :chuckle: How about whisker biscuits?

Talk about petty.  :dunno: :chuckle: When the moment arrives I'll get r' done with glue.

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Re: glue
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2009, 10:03:23 AM »
dont gotta blow up over a couple questions, my nocks always need turned after i refletch, i like my cock vane to be up, and lined up with the lable of teh arrow and my jig cant fletch with the cock vane lined up like that. and they do need to be perfect for shooting off a lizard tongue rest which i do. i have just never had any issues losing nocks or having them spin on me.

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Re: glue
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2009, 10:05:13 AM »
I didn't blow up. I'm laughing.

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Re: glue
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2009, 01:45:03 PM »
Glue on the nocks might be off limits because you think tuning and accuracy is more important for your situations and purpses but glue is the answer for my personal reasoning and to me - actually having a nock when I need it is more important than tuning

this is what you said ray.....tuning and accuracy is still #1 for me :chuckle:
Im laughing to about the lets see who hits more bullseye :IBCOOL:
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Re: glue
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2009, 02:27:14 PM »
i got 5 cold ones saying that xXx will get more bullseyes!!!!..

...only 5 cuz i already drank the other one :hello:

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Re: glue
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2009, 02:30:23 PM »
Who's got the popcorn :rolleyes:
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Re: glue
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2009, 03:10:21 PM »
i got 5 cold ones saying that xXx will get more bullseyes!!!!..

...only 5 cuz i already drank the other one :hello:

Yeah. With MY bows. These bows don't have sights.

I don't drink beer. You can keep the King Cobras for yourself.

Let me know when you're in town. We'll do it. I'm not normally competitive but with my equipment I think you'll find that gluing a nock is not going to matter one bit as much as yourself being tuned the particular bow. I'll make sure to bring along an english longbow too. Shooting right off the hand is fun.

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Re: glue
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2009, 05:42:31 PM »
 :pee: contest?

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Re: glue
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